Clarity

  • 1.  Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 03, 2015 09:37 AM

    Since concrete information about 14.2/15.1/whatever is a little sparse on the ground, I thought I'd raise the following question....

     

    What specific aspects of the "jaspersoft stack" would someone require technical knowledge of to develop bespoke reports for use with Clarity (sorry, CA PPM)?

     

    I see a few courses out there from various providers for "iReport" and "Studio" - which is pertinent?

     

    Will CA Education be stepping up to the mark and have relevant courses available (i.e. specifically tailored for CA PPM & Jaspersoft) soon?  (how soon is 'soon'?)

     

    Ta!



  • 2.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 03, 2015 01:23 PM

    Did not see you in December in Ditton park. You might have had some answers.

    For one

     

    Q - What version of Jaspersoft will be supported with CA PPM v14.2?

    A - Can’t say yet.  Aim is to make the integration loose so that it is less dependent on a particular version of Jaspersoft.

     

    Secondly

    If that is not known you anticipate that Education training material will be available at the same speed as currently, ie. courses for v14.1 are being currently published.

     

    Thirdly

    If you recall moving from Actuate 6 to Actuate 7 and Actual 8 and maybe even to iServer 9 and eRDpro 9 the

    specific aspects of the "Actuate  stack" were not that version dependent.

     

    So why not go to

    Download Jaspersoft Business Intelligence Suite | Jaspersoft Community

    and start with a test drive or just download (my recollection is that it was 5.5.2 that was demoed)

     

    The iReport Team is pleased to announce the new iReport release: 5.5.2. iReport is available as standalone application and as NetBeans plugin for NetBeans IDE 6.5.x and later. This version includes several improvements and bug fixes.

     

    But notice that
    iReport/Jaspersoft Studio Support Announcement As of version 5.5.0, Jaspersoft Studio will be the official design client for JasperReports. iReport will remain as a supported product in maintenance-only mode until December 31, 2015, meaning we will continue to fix critical defects in upcoming releases but no new features will be added to the iReport client. Continue to maintain your existing reports with the new Jaspersoft Studio!

     

    There is more to it. Check with Chris Reeves.



  • 3.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 03:50 AM

    Ok so its "Studio" I should be looking for....  thats one Q answered!

     

    --

     

    (I don't have enough time to go to the local user-group meetings (I have been to a couple a few years ago), I personally got much more out of the "dev-buddy" or "ca world" events (but we don't seem to have the "dev-buddy" ones anymore and caworld looked "thin" on content last year so I didn't even try to go there)



  • 4.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 04:14 AM

    So you are pressed to work hard, too bad.

    I agree dev buddy was good and less expensive than CA world.



  • 5.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 04:20 AM

    Just looked at my files ; 2009 was the last "Development Exchange"



  • 6.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 06:05 AM

    Yes, there were just two, that one and one in 2008.



  • 7.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?
    Best Answer

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 09:26 AM

    Hi Dave. Yes, Studio is what you're interested in. When we get our OEMed bundled software we'll be getting the 'Pro' packages, but if you're interested in getting your head around the report designer I suspect the community edition is good enough. At CAW I *believe* the demo systems were running Jasper 5.5 (don't recall - 5.5.2 was the release at the time. If it was other than 5.5 this would have stood out to me). Jasper 6 is the current release and adds enhancements to Jasper's Visualize.js - a feature that allows Jasper content to embed framelessly in applications. I suspect CA will implement this as a portlet type much like Xcelsius. When asked at CAW when this feature will be available the answer was soon - but not in the next release. This is understandable. This was also a time when the next release was due in December - so I'm open to being pleasantly surprised but not planning on it as per the script.

     

    Go download the version 6 Studio. Don't worry about server version / client version mismatch. The Studio client's connections are backwards compatible. I've connected the 6 client successfully to a 5.6 server.

    jasper.jpg

    Things I like so far from just a couple proof of concept conversion & deployments:

    - Jasper Reports development is 'band' development. If you have seat time with Crystal, it's the same concept. I bet one can do 'block' development as well, I just haven't got that far yet.

    - Jasper Studio is Eclipse. If you have seat time with Eclipse this is again an easy leap. Down side here is Eclipse is still Eclipse. It can be and does everything... rudimentary well. Eclipse vets will shrug it off and just get the job done (I've already had a Studio install eat itself via an update. Big deal. Delete and reinstall). I expect to hear much noise out of those without Eclipse experience about the Eclipse experience. Cowperson up.

    - Jasper Reports are simply compiled XML files (JRXML). Theoretically one can develop in notepad...

    - Jasper Reports support Java, JavaScript and Groovy for programmatic work. Should be cool, powerful stuff. I have a couple ideas...

    - I love the Template capability. This will allow us to create templates that we as well as ad hoc users can 'apply' to their reports for branding purposes. This will really up the fit and finish of what our users run around with which will positively reflect tenfold on us. Creating branded templates for our organizations should be the first thing us technical folks should do. If one doesn't have technical folks - pay CA or any of the excellent 3rd party vendors to do this. Best money you can spend - you won't be disappointed.

    - I like that I can do base64 images! No files to embed, deploy or manage.

     

    You had a question about training. I have budget set aside for training, but after reading the docs, spending some time with the demo server (download the VM from JasperSoft) and doing a couple mock conversions - I don't know how much more there is to be discovered. I may take Jasper's Studio training just because I can. If one doesn't have a lot of time for learning-by-doing, surely the training will be an opportunity to pomodoro on this and be an efficient use of time.

    The ETL tool is not Jasper's but Pentaho Kettle. I don't know how this will factor in and/or how much we'll need to know & maintain here. Since the flag for what's to be included in the datamart is set in Clarity Studio (<-- that's genius) - it should just be a nightly job that runs that we don't touch. My organization has specific needs around dynamic report bursting, so I'm planning on doing some Kettle development (Java) for this. A casual conversation with those in the know at CA at CAW, no one saw any reason why customers couldn't do this.

    The new datamart is obviously a big part of this. For experienced Clarity developers like yourself an ERD will do. For others, I'm certain CA will have a class.

     

    Of course I'm not product management and all of this omits the known & unknown unknowns, is subject to change, etc.

     

    Nothing to it but to do it! Looking forward to getting my hands on release software (we do not alpha or beta test) and rolling up my sleeves.

     

    HTH,

    Rob



  • 8.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 02:56 PM

    Will ETL be included in the package we recieve with 14.2? Thats the first I've seen that mentioned. Looking on the Jasper website they name Talend as the ETL vendor which I've looked at before but was unable to get traction on using so if that is included with Clarity that will be a nice bonus. Where did you see Pentaho Kettle mentioned?

     

    Also, I haven't tried it out but I know there is a Bitnami stack for JasperSoft that should help anyone that wants to poke around a bit with it get it up and running fairly quickly. I've used a couple of their other ones before for quick tests and they are very simple to get going.



  • 9.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 04, 2015 06:45 PM

    Hi L.Elias. Yes, Pentaho Kettle is the ETL tool that will populate the datamart (A star schema with some flakes, as it was demoed). This information is from the End of Sprint demos as well as the 'Hands On' sessions at CAW back in November (I ask a lot of questions - I'm there to learn ).

     

    Like above, I'm not product management and all of this omits the known & unknown unknowns, is subject to change, etc.



  • 10.  Re: Jaspersoft Training?

    Posted Feb 16, 2015 10:07 AM

    Hi David,

     

    as Jaspersoft will introduce several new features (Ad hoc reporting, data warehouse, new report designer), it definitely makes sense to get started with a dedicated training session for the key users of reporting, report developers and system administrators to make full use of the new possibilities.

     

    For German speaking users, the following trainings could be of interest:

    http://www.itdesign.de/ppm/schulungen/