DirectPath IO enabled by default on VMs with VMXNET3

[kwg66]

There are some tidbits about this in various forums, none of which declare any official impact to VM performance.  However, there was a VMware KB published that recommended this be disabled.   that said, the KB no longer exists.  Go ahead and access it and see the page can't be found message:   https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2145889

So I'm officially reaching out to the experts at VMware to ask, is there any impact to this setting being enabled?   My guess is no, which could be why VMware took down the KB.   But it would be better suited to leave a KB up and simply state that its safe to ignore this, or otherwise provide some guidance for customers.

Thanks in advance to your advice

 

[sramanuja]

Generally you want a device to either be configured with virtualization (like vmxnet3 for networking) or in passthrough mode (with DirectPath IO enabled). Having DirectPathIO enabled with VMXNET3 is just a misconfiguration. It was a bug and it has been fixed.

Depending on the application networking performance needs vs. virtualization benefits (like vMotion, HA etc.) you would want to configure your networking device appropriately. There is usually some overhead to virtualization , but the benefits obtained need to be weighed against the performance consideration.

[kwg66]

Vmotion continues to work unless there is actually a true mapping to the PCI device where direct path IO is in proper use.   

 

the question that needs answering is whether enabling Direct Path IO on the vmxnet3 adapter will have any performance impact on the VM when there is no actual mapping to a PCI device.   After all, enabling Direct Path on VMXNET3 is useless without a mapping to the PCI device, so for the most part, at first glance,  its just a check box checked that isn't really doing anything.  But VMware should have an answer as to whether there is a performance impact to the VM when this check box is checked and no actual mapping to a PCI device exists.   

 

[Kinnison]

IMHO is an interesting question,

In vCenter 7.0U3C when creating a new virtual machine and adding a VMXNET3 network adapter, as stated by , it did select by default the DirectPath I/O option. I beg your pardone, but if it's a bug in the vCenter GUI interface, then is not resolved.

Beside doing apparently nothing I also dig on the web about this option but also I have not found any clear indication on Vm impact performance.

Well, a "lab" obviously is not a production environment but I tend to approxymate it as much as possible, eventually replicanting useful thing on the "real world".

Regards.

[kwg66]

Thanks for chiming in Kinnison - I think we can all agree that our employers don't care to have us spending time in a lab environment trying to understand the behavior of VMware issues that they themselves should have a handle on and properly advise customers about.    

[Matthias Kaufmann]

Does anyone know if there's an official KB describing the "its just a check box checked that isn't really doing anything" or confirms it's just a bug in the GUI?

[fvops]

 hey there,

could you please help us get this lingering question answered? is the DirectPath I/O checkbox doing anything when (automatically) selected for a VMXNET3 adapter?

[Kinnison]

Hi,

Even with the vCenter 7.0U3g object whenever a virtual machine with a VMxnet3 network interface is created, still the "direct path I/O" option get enabled by default. A bug supposed to have been corrected some time ago, but no, it is still there (and it is not the only, long standing, one).

Regards,
Ferdinando

[David Hendy]

Ive submitted a call requesting definitive word on whether having DPIO checked with no passthrough devices set is likely to cause any issues.

[David Hendy]

I see from the case description that you are requesting information in relation to DPIO being enabled on your VMs.

The presence of the checked "DirectPath I/O" field in the VMXNET3 network adapter is a sub optimal UI name for an old, rarely used feature (ethernetX.uptCompatibility, "Universal PassThrough", basically allowing vMotion for Passthrough NICs on Cisco HW with a specific 3rd party VDS) that currently doesn't do anything. There is no impact on having it enabled. 

"The support for DirectPath I/O enabled has been removed. i.e uptCompatibilityEnabled property is no longer supported." This is from one of our internal documents. 

DirectPath I/O would not be in use until it is configured to do so on the host. This can be configured by enabling a passthrough device for a network adapter on the host. 
Once this is enabled, the VM a can then be configured to use this passthrough device by adding a PCI device as an adapter and in turn using DirectPath I/O.

[Kinnison]

Hi,

So it's seems another incongruity of the user interface of the vCenter object that no one has bothered to remedy while acknowledging its obvious uselessness.

Regards,
Ferdinando

[WuGeDe]

I had the same question.
As someone else stated that must be misnamed old and disused feature that still has not been removed from the options menu.

Even today with 8U1 that option is still shown in the settings of the vmxnet3 network adapter.

[GregChristopher]

I think this is more than an annoyance.

In my case, it would seem the virtual machine got the mac address of one of the hypervisor's physical nics.

Since my TOR server autoconfigures the ip addresses based on mac addresses, the VM GOT THE SAME IP ADDRESS AS THE SERVER.

I saw that once but not consistently.

So there seems to be some behavior tied to the checkbox.

[Kinnison]

Hello,

Old THREAD but your observation is interesting because even if the "Directpath I/O" option is no longer available via GUI (i.e. no checkbox) of recent versions of a vCenter object (for example 8.0U2a) the related setting in the ".VMX" configuration file "uptCompatibilityEnabled" is well present and set to "TRUE" when a new virtual machine is created with a "VMXNET3" network adapter.

Honestly, I can't say that I have encountered problems like yours but in one way or another "we go back to the starting point" which was the subject of the original discussion, if that parameter is of no use why was it still ever added and set to "TRUE" again for default setting.

Regards,
Ferdinando