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NCM capture error

  • 1.  NCM capture error

    Posted Apr 29, 2015 06:37 AM

    Hi All,

     

    We've face a "The operation timed out. The device may not be responding." error on some devices, TFTP timeout is set to 600 sec.

    Even it gives this error on oneclick I saw that it copies the capture file to tftp root directory with a naming like "SCM_0x5f02490" ,  this file can be opened fine, by the way these devices can be captured few days ago, these devices in on Cisco IOS and Cisco SSH device family classes.

    what is the reason for this?

    thanks for your time and help.



  • 2.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted Apr 29, 2015 09:28 AM

    Have you tried using wireshark or something similar to watch the tftp traffic?  Usually when I have NCM problems like that, it turns out that there is something obvious once you start looking at the traffic, and if not, it should at least help you figure out if it is a problem on the Spectrum side or the device side.



  • 3.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted Apr 30, 2015 03:15 AM

    I agree. The files in the tftp root directory are only a symptom, that something goes wrong. Capture the  communication with the device on your spectrum server and (if it is not the same) on your TFTP-Server could help to see, what is wrong.



  • 4.  Re: NCM capture error
    Best Answer

    Posted May 01, 2015 02:19 AM

    Hello Tepe,

     

    Does this help?

     

    There was a known issue with TFTP timeouts in early 9.3 that I believe was fixed in 9.3 h02.

     

    Symptom: NCM TFTP file transfer is timed out for medium to large sized configurations

            and not considering configured TFTP timeout value.

     

    Resolution: NCM will be take configured value as TFTP file transfer time out and

            successfully capture the configuration.

            (309133, 21805741-1)



  • 5.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted May 04, 2015 06:39 AM

    thanks for your help, this patch fixes the issue.



  • 6.  Re: NCM capture error

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Jan 18, 2017 03:56 AM

    I am using CA Spectrum 10.2 and facing same issue. TFTP shows that file is downloaded successfully however Firmware upload tasks states that 'NCM File Transfer timeout'



  • 7.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted Jan 18, 2017 07:58 AM

    This could be a device latency problem too.

    Try increasing the DCM Timeout value on that device to see if the problem continues.

    You can also try increasing the overall timeout value for TFTP in the TFTP Configuration settings.



  • 8.  Re: NCM capture error

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Jan 19, 2017 02:57 AM

    I had tried setting timeout to 50 and even 5000 as well. However still it gives error: NCM File Transfer Timeout.

     

    Network administrator informed that he is getting firmware.bin file placed on server however firmware is not getting installed and NCM is giving timeout.



  • 9.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted Jan 19, 2017 02:37 AM

    Maybe, your issue is  the  same as descipred here:

    https://communities.ca.com/thread/241737658?sr=inbox

    The workaround is increasing DCM Timeout value of the device, as Matthew wrote too.

    We have some devices, for which we need more than 20 seconds!



  • 10.  Re: NCM capture error

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Jan 19, 2017 02:58 AM

    I validated with Network admin and got the information that user already have privilege 15, still we are facing the same issue.



  • 11.  Re: NCM capture error

    Posted Jan 20, 2017 01:36 AM

    Sorry, I should have written a little bit more.

    I'm sure, there is no problem with privileges.

    We had  an issue with some IOS-XE devices and NCM using SNMP/TFTP.

    Because of a bug (?) these devices send the response to the write request after finishing the file transfer.

    This may result in timeouts and an error message.

    Our workaround was setting the DCM timeout to 10.000ms, sometimes up to 20.000.

    Changing the TFTP timeout had no effect in our case.

    We have anlyzed  this by capturing the communication between

     - SS and the device

    - TFTP server and the device

    - SS and  TFTP server

    Normally comes the SNMP response to the SS before the file transfer starts.