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Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

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BlazinfathertedNov 03, 2023 08:54 AM

  • 1.  Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 20, 2023 08:43 AM

    Hi,

    this is for anyone having the same trouble after upgrading to 17.5.0; I did the standard in place upgrade, and - as allways- installed the enhanced keyboard driver.

    After that I started up my vm and did some work in IDEA. Shortly after I edited some code at once a whole line got erased instead of just 1 click on the remove key. You could literally see the line beeing draged leftwards and dissapear letter by letter.... At first I was ok... well.. wtf... after 2 mins the same again. I rebooted my laptop and restarted my work. Suddenly after 4 mins the whole system removes line by line and this time it even didnt let me use my own keyboard anymore... didnt stop... and tried to delete further even after the code file was already empy (thanks git... no worries here ). Also the whole system hung without beeing able to press any key - only way out was a complete hard reset of the hardware.

    I tried to fix this for some time but only after I did a complete uninstall and reinstall with reboots and lefting out the "enhanced keyboard driver" the problem seems gone.

    So, if you have any problems with your computer typing or deleting on its own: get rid of the "enhanced keyboard driver"!

     

    For Vmware in case you're interested:

    Betriebsystemname Microsoft Windows 10 Pro for Workstations
    Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
    Systemhersteller Dell Inc.
    Systemmodell Precision 7760
    Prozessor Intel(R) Xeon(R) W-11855M CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3187 MHz, 6 Kern(e), 12 logische(r) Prozessor(en)
    BIOS-Version/-Datum Dell Inc. 1.23.0, 07.06.2023
    Installierter physischer Speicher (RAM) 64,0 GB



  • 2.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 20, 2023 10:09 AM

    Hello,


    Honestly, I have never understood exactly what concrete benefits the so-called "enhanced keyboard driver" produces, at least I have not found any particularly relevant ones that would justify its installation. Never installed and will continue not to install "that driver".


    Regards,
    Ferdinando



  • 3.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 23, 2023 01:27 PM

    I am also seeing this behaviour but I do not have the enhanced keyboard driver installed.

    It appears to be related to the arrow keys and holding one pressed down for too long after a certain amount of time.

    The button will remain pressed inside the VM and the VM refuses all other keyboard / mouse input but is not actually locked up.

    In my case I could ssh into my vm and reboot it, I'm assuming RDP also works on windows VM's.

     

    This behaviour started immediately after the last 17.5.0 update.



  • 4.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 21, 2023 01:46 PM

    It happens with or without the enhanced keyboard driver. What happens to me is I'll be editing a file, whether in vi, an IDE or Ubunutu Text Editor, what have you. Then all of a sudden, the last key I pressed, whatever it happened to be just starts repeating ad infinitum, locking the whole VM. All I can do is sit there, jaw-dropped, while I watch the file I was editing getting completely destroyed by the repeating character. The only course of action is to power off the VM and lose your unsaved work.

     

    VM Ware I am telling you this is a serious issue and it has to stop.



  • 5.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 23, 2023 03:39 PM

    After working for a few minutes (< 5min), the keyboard (*not* the enhanced keyboard driver) just stopped working in an Ubuntu 22.04 guest OS. Host is Windows 11 Pro on Dell XPS 15. This happened to a colleague of mine, too, so it's unlikely to be tied to a particular user's configuration (though we do have the same model host machines).

    I can ssh to the guest so I know it's running just fine. The clock updates, too, so the UI itself is running. If I reboot the host+guest, the keyboard comes back for a few minutes then dies again. So this is probably a guest tools problem. I've got the latest installed via `apt`. I get the status messages about using Ctrl+G and Alt+Ctrl, but no luck actually typing into the guest VM through the UI.

     



  • 6.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 23, 2023 03:43 PM

    Also, the mouse fails to work through the guest UI. Clicking, selecting, etc. Pausing and resuming the virtual machine does not help.

    I will uninstall this version until I see a fix or workaround posted (updated openvm tools?). My colleague did the same. Too bad because two annoying problems we were having were fixed in this release: slow Ubuntu server booting and inability to use bridged network).

    could you change the title to remove the "enhanced" part since this doesn't seem to be related to just the enhanced keyboard driver? Or did the regular keyboard driver work for you?

     



  • 7.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 23, 2023 04:26 PM

    Hello,


    In my opinion it is difficult to establish what is the root cause of the problem, because reading the various posts there is no obvious correlation between the "host" and "guest" operating systems. Personally, this latest version did not particularly impress me, immediately after the update certain virtual machines no longer started due to obscure "ownership" problems of the ".vmx" files which could not even be "acquired" (in a simple, practical way).


    Regards,
    Ferdinando



  • 8.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 23, 2023 07:16 PM

    Same issues, input seems to suddenly stop on the VM but network connectivity continues working.  I had several Linux installs just hang today in the Workstation window, while I could ssh into them and try to debug within.  They seemed to be running just fine otherwise.  Only way I could get the input back was to restart the VM.  Completely uninstalled 17.5.5 and restarted the OS (Win11, btw).  Reinstalled 17.0.2, skipping the enhanced kb driver, and things have been flawlessly stable since.  I guess I'll wait for the 17.5.1 build



  • 9.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 02:40 AM

    I too have tha keyboard and mouse problem - both become unusable. Easy to reproduce using chrom in Ubuntu 22.04. The enhanced keyboard is not used.

    Simply open up Chrome, press ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom and then it stops. The VM is still active because i can ssh into the vm. The keyboard and mouse are not processed. Down grading - to  17.0.2

     



  • 10.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 11, 2023 10:34 PM

    I've downgraded to 17.0.2 -- all is good. Notification for upgrade came up and I just clicked "Ignore this version"

    BTW:

    - Host Win 11
    - VM Unbuntu 22.04



  • 11.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 12, 2023 08:00 AM
    email sent to Raghu.Raghuram CEO of VMware
     

    Dear VMware

     

    I am writing to express my dissatisfaction with the VMware Workstation Pro 17.5. I have been experiencing several issues that have significantly impacted my work and productivity.

     

    Prior to the latest upgrade everything with my VM's was nearly perfect.  After the upgrade, they have ALL developed a problem, where after a time, maybe 10 to 15 minutes - they stop responding to the mouse and keyboard.  You can get to the console, and pause or terminate them, but nothing brings the mouse or keyboard back.

    I have attempted to resolve these issues, but unfortunately, the problems persist.

    Seems to be a common problem. Many folks have reverted to 17.0.x to get around this. However, I do not have access to this version.

    Because there does not seem to be any document relating to this current issue am I to assume VMware is unaware of the issue?

     

    Others are reporting issues in trying to log the fault often met with “log an incident” and pay for support. This policy is working against you as the issue is entirely a fault of faulty software, which begs the question of how this got past testing, as the problem was immediate and widespread.  

     

    I believe that a product of VMware's reputation should provide a reliable and efficient service. Therefore, I kindly request that you address these issues as soon as possible.

     

    I look forward to your prompt response and a resolution to my problems. Please do not hesitate to contact me at (your contact information) should you require further information.

     

    Yours sincerely,



  • 12.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 12, 2023 11:22 AM

     wrote:

     

    Seems to be a common problem. Many folks have reverted to 17.0.x to get around this. However, I do not have access to this version.

    Unless I'm very mistaken you can download from the following link:
    https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/details?downloadGroup=WKST-1702-WIN&productId=1376&rPId=111461

    and use your 17.5 license.
    Make sure that your VM's have been downgraded to version 17.0 before uninstalling 17.5

    edit: just in case there's some Linux folks with the same issue, here's also the link for 17.0.2  Linux: https://customerconnect.vmware.com/downloads/details?downloadGroup=WKST-1702-LX&productId=1376&rPId=111462

    --
    Wil



  • 13.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 13, 2023 03:35 PM

    finally had to downgrade to 17.0.2. unfortunately my company has an automated process that is trying to force the 17.5.0 upgrade over and over. this is driving me crazy.



  • 14.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 13, 2023 03:41 PM

    > finally had to downgrade to 17.0.2. unfortunately my company has an automated process that is trying to force the 17.5.0 upgrade

     You should definitely contact your IT group then.  With luck, they actually have a support contract and could file a case on your (and our) behalf. And a real case is likely to go further than our grumbling in a community channel. 



  • 15.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 13, 2023 03:45 PM

     yeah, that's what we're hoping... my team has at least 3 tickets open with our (big) corporate IT about this.



  • 16.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 06:27 AM

    Hi,

    in my case after removing of the driver and a complete re-install of Workstation 17.5. the problem went away. However, I'm not using the "native" virtualization of Workstation but the HyperV one as I have podman running on my windows 10 host OS.



  • 17.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 06:29 AM

    -duplicate-



  • 18.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 10:38 AM

    My specs:

    Host System: Windows 11 Enterprise

    Build: 22621.2428

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz

    RAM: 32,0 GB (31.8 GB usable)

    Graphics: NVIDIA Quadro T1000 (4GB)

    Hyper-V is enforced (cannot turn it off)

    I  do NOT have the Enhanced Keyboard Drivers installed.

     

    VM:

    Kubuntu 22.04 (tried with Ubuntu 22.04, same problems)

    RAM: 16 GB 

    Processors (1 CPU, 6 cores /cpu)

    Two SATA Disks

    USB 3.1

    3D Graphics acceleration is disabled. (Display)

     

    One shared folder which is always enabled

    Copy & Paste and Drag & Drop is enabled

    Time Sync is enabled

    No auto login

    firmware type is bios

    (memory page trimming is disabled)

    Side channel mitigations are disabled

     

    I have the exact same symptoms where I open Google Chrome (google.com) and then trigger a complete input "freeze" by pressing ctrl + mouse scroll (up/down) which then prevents any further input and only leaves me with a complete restart of the VM preventing me from working....

    The VM is not frozen, as I am able to SSH into is using Putty and it is responsive.

     

    A hotfix (which is not a long term solution, as the vm becomes unusable for development) that I found is that you can reduce the number of CPUs and cores/CPU to 1 for each.

    With 1 cpu and 1 core/cpu I was not able to respoduce the input freeze using Google Chrome (ctrl + scroll).

    Fun fact:

    While my VM is running, I am able to increase the number of CPUs to 4 (or even more) and Google Chrome still does not freeze.

    If I reboot my VM, then it starts to freeze again when trying to zoom in and out using ctrl + scroll up/down

     



  • 19.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 25, 2023 10:43 AM

    UPDATE:

    Even with 1 cpu and 1 cpu/core I am still experiencing the issue that the keyboard and mouse input do not work after a random period of time.... it seemingly just takes longer.



  • 20.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 01:49 PM

    Just posting to say "me too" ... keyboard and mouse input just lock up solid after some minimal VM use (Ubuntu VM on Win10 in my case).

    I'm downgrading to 17.0.2 as we speak, VM is basically unusable on 17.5



  • 21.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 24, 2023 10:54 PM

    Adding a me too. I was just working, and suddenly, the mouse and keyboard stopped responding. I can force a guest OS reboot, and it works again. Tried both the Enhanced keyboard AND the standard.

    This happens repeatedly and always after "a little while" regardless of how much the VM is doing.

     

     



  • 22.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 25, 2023 09:40 PM

    Add me too. Like 10 times in the last 2 days, my Kali has just stopped responding to Keyboard inputs, did install advanced KB. 

    Sometimes when I restart WSP altogether it doesnt use the KB from the start and my Caps Lock key is lit up and wont turn off. 

    Going back to 17.2 I cant have this happening. 

    Configuration : vmware workstation pro 17.5

    host : windows 11

    guest 1 : kali Vmware release. 

    both updated, yes wayland, 3d was off, on now. 



  • 23.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 26, 2023 02:50 AM
    Try the keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE thing mentioned a few posts ago, see if that helps.


  • 24.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 25, 2023 09:00 PM

    WOW unbelievable 17.5.0 broke all if my VMs.  I tried reinstalling like four times, tried to remove the keyboard driver but the issue is not just the keyboard.  Everything stops and freezes, all my Linux VMs are dead.  Is there an official fix form VMware or all is downhill now with Boradcom? Pretty sad and disappointing.



  • 25.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 04:14 AM

    Same issue here, i hit Backspace too fast and suddenly my mouse wont click but moves and the keyboard is totally unresponsive. The VM itself is active and functional just zero control.

    17.5 Broke my VMs and I cant roll back. This is so bad.

     

    Debian 11 Host (up to date)

    Debian 11 VM (fresh install, up to date)



  • 26.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 09:19 AM

    UPDATE: 

    I downgraded from 17.5.0 back to 17.0.2 (old  installers can be found under %APPDATA%/../Local/VMware/)

    Even if you have upgraded your VM with the migration tool to have hardware compatibility with 17.5.x, you can use that exact same tool for downgrading to 17.0.x again.

    If you have a host shared folder(s) mounted, those will be disabled upon upgrading or downgrading, making your VM fail to boot up.

    You can enable your shared folder again in your VM settings in order to fix the bootup.

    Alternatively you can edit /etc/fstab in rescue mode (the line pointing to your shared folder mount point). 



  • 27.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 31, 2023 01:57 PM

    Thank you for your link to the old installer files. I am however not able to figure out how to downgrade the VM from 17.5.0 to 17.0.2. I am running VMWare Workstation on a Windows 11 Pro PC.



  • 28.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 31, 2023 02:22 PM

    Ahhh... finally found how to downgrade the VM myself under VM->Manage->Change Hardware Compatibility...

    Downgraded to 17.x and my AlmaLinux 9 VM started successfully again. 



  • 29.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 09:09 AM

    Chipping in with a "same here"
    (Host Windows 11 Pro, Guest: Ubuntu 23.04)

    • After a few minutes keyboard input and mouse input is no longer possible although even the cursor still blinks.

     

    • Only killing and restarting the guest brought control back.
    • Nothing seen with high memory usage ( so did not try to replace
    • I might have installed the enhanced driver in the update (but I am not sure it was not installed already)

    Downgraded to Version 17.0.2 and waiting for response from vmware (highly unsatisfied)



  • 30.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 10:41 AM

    So is it just Linux VM's that are affected ? It might be an open-vm-tools vs 17.5.0 issue if that's the case.



  • 31.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 12:08 PM

    At least it fails for me too with an AlmaLinux 9 VM inside VMWare Workstation Pro 17.5.0. Looking forward to a solution as I "upgraded" my VM to 17.5.x Hardware Compatibility, hence I cannot downgrade VMWare to 17.0.2, I guess.



  • 32.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 12:27 PM

     wrote:

    At least it fails for me too with an AlmaLinux 9 VM inside VMWare Workstation Pro 17.5.0. Looking forward to a solution as I "upgraded" my VM to 17.5.x Hardware Compatibility, hence I cannot downgrade VMWare to 17.0.2, I guess.


    You can downgrade the virtual hardware of the VM.  Then you can uninstall 17.5.0 and reinstall 17.0.2.



  • 33.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 03:35 PM

    Does VMware supply vmtools for Linux? Because if not (I don't think they do) they sort of have to make sure its compatible to say its supported.

    Frankly this makes me worry about the future and the brand damage to VMware isn't small here. Many of us manage hypervisor farms and just arnt posting on our corporate accounts as its not related to the actual support contract.



  • 34.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 08:13 PM

    I can duplicate this instantly after updating to 17.5. Upgraded guests, all running Linux. Kubuntu 22.04, Kali, Blackbuntu 22.04. I noticed some extreme lag with the keyboard where it'll "buffer" an insane number of keypresses in the console, so don't hold down backspace or anything working with text.  But as soon as you try to copy/paste between host (windows 11) and guest (any of the linux distros) the keyboard/mouse completely stop working and the only way to fix (I've found so far) is to do a reset from the power options.  I have the enhanced keyboard driver installed and configured on my guests as I thought that was the solution to the behavior, but alas, it appears to be a 17.5 issue. I haven't tried updating the vmtools yet, but I think I'm going to try uninstalling/reinstalling Workstation 17.5 without the enhanced keyboard driver first.



  • 35.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 08:53 PM

    Hi,

    A few notes.

    1) Don't install the enhanced keyboard driver.. especially NOT if you don't even know what it does.

    From my notes:

    jameslin: " The primary purpose of the host keyboard driver is to allow Ctrl+Alt+Del and Win+L to work from within the guest OS without it being intercepted by the Windows host OS.

    The secondary purpose is to handle international keyboards better. "

    from : What exactly is the enhanced keyboard driver?

    9 out of 10 you don't care that these keys are intercepted by the host OS... and the international keyboard support isn't that much better (if at all)

    2) Make sure that you are using VMware's hypervisor and not just the Hyper-V API's.. which is what will happen by default on a lot of Windows installs now. Of course there might be a reason for you to run Hyper-V, but there's a lot of complaints nowadays that things don't work as they used to.. without realizing that they are running under a different hypervisor.

    --
    Wil



  • 36.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 27, 2023 06:27 AM

    Hi,

     

    Honestly I used the enhanced keyboard driver since workstation 5 or 6? I allways installed it whenever I did a workstation install, never cared and never had problems before. The install dialog just makes you feel it is better this way....

    Regarding the hyper-v: well, Im now fine since I uninstalled all and have no keyboard driver. I didnt have another lockup or problem so far the last days, only the copy-n-paste is a tad slower than expected but we talk sub seconds here.... I really would like to get rid of hyper-v but I just cant since I also use WSL2 and podman so you end up needing it. Can you explain why vmware cant use its own virtualization when hyper-v is installed? Why cant it run side-by-side?

     



  • 37.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 27, 2023 09:58 AM

    Hi,


     wrote:

    Hi,

     

    I really would like to get rid of hyper-v but I just cant since I also use WSL2 and podman so you end up needing it. Can you explain why vmware cant use its own virtualization when hyper-v is installed? Why cant it run side-by-side?


    That's because of the way Hyper-V works. Basically it changes how the host OS runs, the host OS will run as a special kind of VM and as such the VMware hypervisor no longer gets direct access to all hardware features that it requires in order to be able to function.
    More info at:
    https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2020/05/vmware-workstation-now-supports-hyper-v-mode.html
    and https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-177F1E77-BFFD-485F-90BB-2E45B6B88678.html

    An alternative way to run WSL2 and podman is to run those in a guest with the VMware hypervisor enabled. The nesting support with VMware's hypervisor is really excellent.
    Having said that, it might not be what you need.

    --
    Wil



  • 38.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 26, 2023 11:15 PM

    I can confirm this.

    I replicated it several times by holding right arrow in text field, when I tried to scroll the text. Several times in DBeaver, several times in IDEA. Started right after updating to 17.5.0.

    Linux Mint 21.2



  • 39.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 27, 2023 12:51 PM

    having this problem also after upgrading to 17.5



  • 40.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 10:41 AM

    Knock on wood, I've not seen this issue since going into settings of each of my VMs, Options->General, and setting "Enhanced Keyboard" to "off"



  • 41.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 31, 2023 01:31 PM

    So I'm still going for a few days without this issue.

    going into the vm settings and changing the setting to not try to use the enhanced keyboard driver, if available, so far has fixed the issue for me.  I've done this on all my vms and not just the one where the issue happened nearly every day.

    I didn't want to go through the trouble of reverting versions.



  • 42.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 01:50 PM

    Follow up to my previous post.  This has worked for me all week.  I'm still on 17.5 on windows 11 with the hyper-v hypervisor.  Hopefully this helps others. 

     

    > So I'm still going for a few days without this issue.
    > going into the vm settings and changing the setting to not try to use the enhanced keyboard driver, if available, so far has fixed the
    > issue for me.  I've done this on all my vms and not just the one where the issue happened nearly every day.
    > I didn't want to go through the trouble of reverting versions.



  • 43.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 06, 2023 06:52 AM

    In my setup I have set the enhanced keyboard to off, note it has a warning that the enhanced keyboard isn't installed on the host/ And I have the problem.



  • 44.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 06, 2023 02:17 PM

    Yeah, I turned off the enhanced keyboard and used the 'Change/Modify' option in the installer to (attempt to?) remove it completely but the issue remained after a few reboots for good measure. It does seem that disabling this works for at least some people, so maybe we've got two variants of the issue.



  • 45.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 08, 2023 04:58 AM

    The results are inconclusive but here goes:

    Last night installed a fresh ubuntu and redhat instances so far no issues working perfectly 

    I have now deleted my other VMs - kali and csi linux and re added them so far so good but it could be several hours until a failure - so its too early to say if this has worked.

    It would be nice if others try the same.

    Note the fresh builds do not have open-vm-tools installed yet



  • 46.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 08, 2023 09:03 AM

    Just an update first lock out of the day on one of my pre 17.5 builds

    Updating the VM tools did not resolve the issue

     

    One thing I have noiced is that during a failure it can repeat the last character could be anything from letters numbers or any of the arrows, or control keys but the new installs are yet to see t the issue I really hope I don't have to rebuild all my environments 



  • 47.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 08, 2023 05:33 PM

    Did anyone happen to report this with vmware support ?



  • 48.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 08, 2023 06:09 PM

    We can’t. You need a support agreement with VMWare and none of us have one. Their solution for people without support agreements is to post on the community forums so they can subsequently ignore it. 



  • 49.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 08, 2023 10:22 PM

     wrote:

    We can’t. You need a support agreement with VMWare and none of us have one. Their solution for people without support agreements is to post on the community forums so they can subsequently ignore it. 



    There is another option.

    If you are running Workstation Pro, you can purchase per-incident support "vouchers" from the VMware's online store https://store-us.vmware.com/per-incident-support-workstation-pro-5424560200.html and then use that to open a support request.  It's not ideal that you have to spend your own money to open a support incident to get action on a bug, but that's unfortunately the way VMware has chosen to support its products.

    The community forums are just that - a community of users of the product. It isn't frequented by VMware employees looking for problem reports as part of their day jobs. There should be zero expectations that a VMware employee will take action on anything posted here - if by chance they do, then you're extremely lucky.



  • 50.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 09, 2023 09:18 AM

    Running VMWare Workstation 17.5.0 build-22583795 here. I have just noticed that my issues with mouse and keyboard started right after I upgraded...

    Basically, after some time the Linux guest (I am using Ubuntu Mate) stops receiving keyboard and mouse inputs. What I need to do then, is to manually disconnect my mouse/ keyboard USB connections from the host and connect them to the guest, just so I can gracefully close everything and restart the VM...

    This seems like a joke :|.

    Did any of you guys find out a workaround for this, to somehow reactivate the inputs?



  • 51.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 08:01 AM

    I seem to have the same problem here. 

    My host is:
    Edition Windows 10 Pro
    Version 22H2
    OS build 19045.3570
    Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19052.1000.0

    VM ware:
    VMware® Workstation 17 Pro
    17.5.0 build-22583795

    The virtual machine with open-vm-tools installed and latest updates:
    Fedora release 38

    I'm using it for software development and what seems to happen is that everything appears to stop responding, but what really happens is that the virtual machine is still running, but it just won't respond to input anymore. I can still SSH into the machine, it just won't register mouse clicks or keyboard actions anymore. I found no workaround for this other than letting VM workstation shutdown the machine and reboot and in the process lose unsaved work! The frequency of this happening is also not predictable. It may happen after working 5 hours without any issues, but it can also happen much faster, like within one hour. 

    As you can imagine, losing unsaved files and having to reboot is rather inconvenient. I hope that this is fixed soon. I am considering downgrading to VMware workstation 7.0.0, but I doubt that I can downgrade at this point, since I ran the encrypted disk updater. So perhaps it's time to restore an older backup along with VMware 7.0.0, but then that will make me hesitant to ever up again!



  • 52.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 12:45 PM

    Maybe some extra information.. my enhanced keyboard IS off.. and hyper-v is also not installed. Today it ran fine all morning.. then stopped working in the afternoon. When it freezes, num-lock is not responding anymore either. The key cursor is still blinking.

    In an attempt to figure out what parameters are influencing the freezing, I will enable the enhanced keyboard in the VM, since I did install it after doing a clean VM ware workstation 7.5.0 install but left it disabeld in the VM. Just note that it was also freezing when the enhanced keyboard driver wasn't even installed with VM ware.



  • 53.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 12:58 PM

     wrote:

    .. and hyper-v is also not installed.


    When people say "Hyper-V is not installed" I never know what they mean or if they are aware on how this works.
    You don't need to install Hyper-V in order for VMware Workstation to use the Windows Hyper-V API's.

    Check the vmware.log file of your VM for the words "monitor mode".

    If it says "ULM" then you are using the Hyper-V API's. Only when it says "CPL0" you are using VMware's hypervisor.

    --
    Wil



  • 54.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 01:03 PM

    Hi  ,

    I'm sorry, I was not aware that the API's are separate from the 'feature install hyper-v', thank you  for clarifying!

    I did look it up and it says:

    In(05) vmx Monitor Mode: CPL0

     

     



  • 55.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 01:17 PM

    Yeah, fair point. I meant that all the boxes next to Hyper-V are unchecked in the "Turn windows features on or off" dialog.

    mysterylie_0-1698671816752.png

     



  • 56.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 04:38 PM

    that's clear. You're using VMware's hypervisor, I guess that excludes finger pointing to Microsofts hypervisor for this issue.

    sadly that still doesn't mean you're using VMware's hypervisor, I wish it was that clear cut.

    --
    Wil



  • 57.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 04:52 PM

    Fascinating, thanks for the info. Do you know how I can disable it once and for all? Not seeing details in the VMWare announcement or docs about how to disable it, they basically just say "if you're using it VMWare Workstation Pro will work".

     

    Microsoft's own docs just point to the thing I used. I've also run the command these mention.

     

     

     



  • 58.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 05:48 PM

    Hi,

    There's a Knowledge base article somewhere, but I don't have the link ready. Lately I tend to point people to the following forum post as it seems pretty complete.
    https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Disabling-Hyper-V-hypervisor-on-Windows-11-Pro-host-to-get/m-p/2989411#M182968

    --
    Wil



  • 59.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 31, 2023 12:03 AM

    There are people in the thread using Linux as the host and still experiencing this issue (including me, Linux in both guest and host). Whatever's causing it, I don't see how it could be anything specific to Windows or the Windows version of the software.



  • 60.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 08:23 AM

    Just to add a me too. 

    I tried to work witch 1 core 1 cpu and the keyboard not fails, but for the code compilation is a mess!

    I tried to work in RDP and the keyboard not fails, but this is not a solution!

    My guest is a Debian 12. 

    Please fix it!



  • 61.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 09:53 AM

    Update: 

    I also disable Hyper-V, but the issues continues. 

    Mouse and keyboard restarts to work only after downgrade to 17.0.2



  • 62.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 30, 2023 12:23 PM

    I'm downgrading, too. You can find the file on your system (assuming you didn't prune it) starting with:  VMware-workstation-full-17.0.2

    I never had Hyper-V enabled (previous issues with VirtualBox had me turn that off years ago). I _did_ install the enhanced keyboard driver because I, like many others, thought enhanced = better. I think this is not the case. However, even after removing the keyboard driver (which was a real pain because you need admin rights to modify things, and the control panel > add/remove programs doesn't give you this by default) and rebooting the issue persists.

    Specifically, I'm running into this issue across 3 debian-based VMs. Everything works normally for a few minutes but then it looks like I have an infinite key glitch where the same character is repeated until I hard-stop or reboot the machine. I caught this by being in a terminal when it happened, but otherwise it just looks like everything is frozen and no input works.

    Rolling back has solved the issue completely (and I shan't be installing any "enhancements" again any time soon!)



  • 63.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Oct 31, 2023 01:16 PM

    I'm also experiencing this issue.

    I tried not using the "enhanced" keyboard driver, but the problem still occurs.

    I have a Win10 host and an Ubuntu 22.04 guest.

    The only "special" configuration in my setup was disabling "Automatically grab and ungrab the mouse" in Global Preferences -> Input because it caused strange behavior in my multi-monitor setup. But this worked flawless in pervious versions.



  • 64.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 01, 2023 01:46 PM

    same here, after a while (can be half an hour or a day..) the input devices -only- on the vm are completely irresponsive. ssh keeps running, though I couldn't find any solution other than reboot. not the best way as that vm is my working pc when working from home.

     

    here's some info about my config

    host:

    System:
    Kernel: 5.15.0-88-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0 Console: pty pts/21
    Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
    Machine:
    Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision 3630 Tower v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
    Mobo: Dell model: 0NNNCT v: A01 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 2.10.0
    date: 07/12/2021

    vmware: 

    version17.5.0 build-22583795

    vm:
    Kernel: 5.15.0-88-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0
    Desktop: Cinnamon 5.8.4 Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria
    base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy



  • 65.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 02, 2023 02:36 PM

    YES! THIS!

    I was trying to write an exam the other day that required me to use Linux in my VM. This happened to me about 6-7 times resulting in me having to reboot the VM and have to set up the exam over and over again.

    Everything continues to run in the background on the VM. I can see the Network activity and CPU activity continue, but the mouse and keyboard stop working. Trying to switch to another TTY doesn't work, and I can't send ctrl + alt + delete either.



  • 66.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 02, 2023 03:09 PM

    I worked around my issues by reverting VM ware workstation back to 17.0.0. Since I already spent so much time trying to analyse this problem I figured I might as well add a little guide on how to roll back your version.

    During my 17.5.0 installation I let it upgrade my encryption to the latest standards, so when I tried to downgrade, I had to remove the encryption first. You can do that by editing your virtual machine settings:

    Guido3_3-1698936420674.png

    And then press Remove Encryption. This exampled shows a grayed out button, because this is a screenshot from a Windows machine, but it was enabled for my Fedora VM:

    Guido3_4-1698936631130.png

    Then revert the VM compatibility to VM Workstation 17.x
    Guido3_0-1698936151382.png

    Change it here:

    Guido3_2-1698936314197.png
    And now just use the "Add and remove programs" from windows to start the VM Workstation uninstaller. After that you may want to reboot and install 17.0.0. Hopefully the VM ware team will come with a patch to fix the issues.

     



  • 67.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 02, 2023 03:21 PM

    I have the same issue.  I'm a Windows 11 Pro host with an Ubuntu 23.04 guest.  My guest will stay up for quite a long time (in the order of a day) but at some point in time, the input will lock up.  I'm experiencing this whilst developing in VS Code; the guest is running, databases it hosts are accessible, and the caret is blinking on the screen.  I'm not sure if it's a key and/or mouse combination that causes it.



  • 68.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 02, 2023 06:51 PM
      |   view attached

    I've been able to reproduce the issue. It looks like if you're holding an arrow key down while the VM loses focus, it goes into a locked up state.

    How to reproduce:

    On your VM, open a large text file and hold the arrow key down. While doing this, move your mouse off the VM Screen and click.

    You'll notice that immediately the VM will no longer accept input. CTRL ALT DEL also doesn't function.

    Once you're in this state, the only fix is to restart.

    Video showing the issue is attached. 



  • 69.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 22, 2023 08:18 PM

    Reverting to 17.x compatibility the result is the same ...

    Opened a text editor, used down arrow, moved mouse out of the guest window and keyboard and mouse hang.

    Absolutely needed a patch as soon as possible from Vmware ... we've payed for it.

     

    Configuration : vmware workstation pro 17.5

    host : ubuntu 20.04.6

    guest 1 : ubuntu 20.04.6 too      hangs !!!

    guest 2 : windows 10 pro works with no problems

     



  • 70.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 08:54 AM

    I'm going to join the 17.5 me too I=same issue 



  • 71.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 10:41 AM

    ok, so its now over for me....

    after removing the enhanced keyboard driver, removing all hyper-v and trying various tweaks I now revert back to 17.0.0 (.1 and .2 wont work as well as network wont work ... was fixed in 17.5... that wont work without this crap here )

    Really dont know how this could have passed VMWare testing



  • 72.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 01:44 PM

    I ended up reverting back to 17.0 as well and that does fix the issue. I haven't been able to reproduce this issue in 17.0.2, so I would recommend downgrading to 17 until VMWare can get this issue fixed. 



  • 73.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 02:00 PM

    17.0.2 seems the last good version for me.  Sadly, looks like VMware Workstation is joining the ranks of apps and companies acquired by Boradcom going down the drain. R.I.P VMware after all those years



  • 74.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 02:04 PM

    It's disappointing to see that such a large issue hasn't even received a reply from any VMWare employee. Not to mention the inability to report bugs without having a support agreement is a bit ridiculous. 



  • 75.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 02:35 PM

     wrote:

    It's disappointing to see that such a large issue hasn't even received a reply from any VMWare employee. Not to mention the inability to report bugs without having a support agreement is a bit ridiculous. 


    This is an end user to end user community forum. VMware employees do not monitor this forum on a regular basis and certainly not as part of their day jobs. So it’s not surprising that they haven’t replied (as annoying as it is). This isn’t the first issue we’ve heard crickets on. The only guaranteed way of getting their attention is, unfortunately, to open a Support Request.



  • 76.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 02:48 PM

    I contacted VMware support and was told I would have to pay to have support fix that issue\bug and otherwise to eff off to the community forum for help here  yippee ki yay!



  • 77.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 05:42 PM

    Yeah I'm slowly transitioning away from VMWare. Two years ago I got rid of ESXi in favor of Proxmox, now I will simply use WSLg or buy a separate working machine.

    This is not the first botched Workstation update. I remember an update, that accidentally removed option to enable Dark Theme. Bizzare.

    Not to mention constant graphical issues with 3D acceleration. I've had a graphical artifacts and glitches for several years now. Currently I'm enjoying daily Linux MInt Cinnamon crashes. I use Workstation for increased productivity. It starts to be a headache instead.



  • 78.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 03, 2023 06:48 PM

    Exactly what I experienced. You would think they would want to be made aware of a pretty serious bug.



  • 79.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 06, 2023 01:55 PM

    Same problem with windows 11 host and ubuntu guest (enhanced keyboard disabled). Experience is random UI freeze on keyboard press and only way to recover is restart guest. Started after installing 17.5 version and fixed by rolling back to 17.0 version.



  • 80.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 06, 2023 01:59 PM

    I must be lucky then. Since I set the vm to no attempt to use enhanced keyboard I've not seen the issue with windows 11 host and rocky 9 guest.  That was over a week ago now.   it was happening a few times a day.   I'm still on 17.5 with the enhanced driver installed, but I just have any vms set to not try to use the enhanced keyboard.



  • 81.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 09, 2023 06:42 PM

    OK, well I thought I had a work around.  I was over a week since seeing the issue.   Then it just happened again.  Downgrading to 17.0.2 again.  This is annoying.  it really makes me want to take a look at alternatives now.



  • 82.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 09, 2023 07:28 PM

    add me to the nameless rabble that have had to downgrade to fix this issue



  • 83.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 09, 2023 10:28 PM

    I'm curious if there are any common factors other than 'Linux' and 'open-vm-tools'

    My VM is using KDE Plasma with X11, anyone running with Wayland or Gnome and also having these issues ?

    X11 has become a little wonky since about a week or so as well with subtle freezes here and there.



  • 84.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 05:08 AM

    My freezes happen on Ubuntu mate guest.



  • 85.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 07:49 AM

    I am also seeing this behaviour but I do not have the enhanced keyboard driver installed.

    It appears to be related to the arrow keys and holding one pressed down for too long after a certain amount of time.

    The button will remain pressed inside the VM and the VM refuses all other keyboard / mouse input but is not actually locked up.

    In my case I could ssh into my vm and reboot it, I'm assuming RDP also works on windows VM's.

     

    This behaviour started immediately after the last 17.5.0 update.



  • 86.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 07:54 AM

    Its sort of the same behavior for me. The only thing tgat stops working is input from the mouse/ keyboard. But, the one handled by vmware. If I manually connect the usb mouse to the guest, I can use ot inside the guest. Of course this is a poor workaround...

    Also, when the vm is dormant, so I dont use any inputs on it, the bug wont appear. So it seems it happens while inputs are activelly used.



  • 87.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 10:36 AM

    Hello,


    Curious, yesterday this thread spread over four "pages", today they have become three.


    Regards,
    Ferdinando



  • 88.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 11:34 AM

    It's still 4 for me. But that's not really important, still trying to figure out what is causing this behaviour.



  • 89.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 10, 2023 12:28 PM

    Hello,


    You're right, mine was just a curiosity at the time.


    Then, if we want to see it in slightly more practical terms, reading the various comments expressed, I doubt you will find an effective remedy to the problem exposed here, other than trying to go back to the immediately previous version.


    Regards,
    Ferdinando



  • 90.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 11, 2023 05:43 PM

    I starting to get really frustrated with VM workstation really impacting my work, I've result to use Hyper-V the humanity! 

     

    Not a peep out of VMware not even! we are trying to fix" I get the whole create a ticket, but this is of their own doing.

     

    Shoddy poor effort from once a might company.



  • 91.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 11, 2023 05:46 PM

    Instead of using Hyper-V I would just uninstall 17.5 and go back to 17.0.2. It least that appears to be working. 



  • 92.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Nov 14, 2023 02:03 PM

     Ticket has been raised internally. Relevant team will look into the same.



  • 93.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 14, 2023 03:54 PM

    Basically the same thing.  Debian bullseye guest running awesome wm.  (but also happens is Ubuntu 20).

    Moving the mouse with the Windows key and a mouse button down hangs the keyboard and mouse buttons. (This is the normal way to move and resize a window in awesome.)

    Mouse and keyboard continue to work fine in the host.

    Downgrading from 17.5to 17.0.2 and all works perfectly. 

    EXCEPT this this is *always* upgrading itself to 17.5.  I think whenever I reboot the host.  Even though check for updates  is disabled...



  • 94.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 18, 2023 03:40 PM

    The

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE

    in config.ini seems to have fixed this for me.

    But it sure was frustrating having to downgrade from 17.5 to 17.0.2 after every reboot.  Never could get to to stop auto upgrading.



  • 95.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 18, 2023 05:25 PM

    To add the keyboard woes others have seen, here is a new one:

    As soon as I actually click in the guest window (but not immediately after startup of the either VMware Player or the guest OS),  the functionality of the Control key disappears completely from the host OS. The situation remains that way until after a logout/login sequence on the host.

    Hardware: Dell Optiplex 9010 with 8 x Intel i7-3770, AMD Turks video card.

    Host OS: OpenSUSE Leap 15.5, KDE Plasma 5.27, SSDM Desktop Manager with X11 (not Wayland).

    VMware® Workstation 17 Player, version 17.5.0 build-22583795

    Guest OS: both Windows XP and Windows 7 show the same behaviour.  The same VM machines (off the same files) do not show this problem under VMware Player 6.1.

    It appears that VMware is affecting how X11 interprets a Ctrl-key press.



  • 96.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Dec 18, 2023 05:33 PM

     You might be having issues with your X11 ModifierMap.  We have to muck with that when grabbed to correctly set LEDs and hook things like VT switches.

    You can set the config option:

    mks.x.resetModMap=FALSE

    and we will avoid messing with the modifier map, at the expense of correct LEDs while grabbed and being unable to hook some key combinations while grabbed.

    If you can post a vmware.log (without the configs) we can take a look and see if there's something we can fix on our end.



  • 97.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 20, 2023 01:22 PM

    Thanks, , that was very helpful!  Creating a ~/.vmware/config file with that one line in it solved the problem, presumably with the shortcomings you mention.

    Which log file would you like to see?  There are lots both in /var/log/vmware and in /tmp/vmware-<username>.

    Before following your suggestion, I investigated a bit further:  what actually happened is that as soon as focus went on the virtual-machine window (I think that's what you called "grabbed"), the X11 key modifier map is changed, and then not changed back properly.  Here is the situation before the "grab" by the virtual machine, 

     

    $ xmodmap -pm
    xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
    
    shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
    lock        Shift_L (0x32)
    control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)
    mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Meta_L (0xcd)
    mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
    mod3      
    mod4        Super_L (0x85),  Super_R (0x86),  Super_L (0xce),  Hyper_L (0xcf)
    mod5        ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c),  Mode_switch (0xcb)
    $

     

    and here it is after:

     

    $ xmodmap -pm
    xmodmap:  up to 0 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
    
    shift     
    lock      
    control   
    mod1      
    mod2      
    mod3      
    mod4      
    mod5      
    $

     

    Interestingly, it really only disabled the Ctrl key, all the others still appeared to be working.

    The map can be restored with the command "setxkbmap", but this had to be done every time focus went back to Linux.  I believe the issue to be specific to OpenSUSE 15.5 as the host, but unlike the other issues mentioned in this thread it does not appear to be specific to Workstation 7.5 - I also tried 16.2 and 17.0.2, and the problem showed up there, too.  16.1 will not run on 15.5, but it does run on OpenSUSE 15.4, and there it does not show the problem.  Up you guys to investigate what may have happened!

    Thanks for the solution, though/



  • 98.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Dec 20, 2023 03:47 PM

     

    We need the vmware.log from the VM folder.

    If you can temporarily set the config option "loglevel.mksAll=5", and then do a quick session where you PowerOn the VM, grab, briefly type/click the mouse, and then ungrab and PowerOff the VM, that would be the most helpful.



  • 99.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 20, 2023 05:16 PM
      |   view attached

    Attached the file /tmp/vmware-msohnius/vmware-vmplayer-3985.log for the last session, invoked with "loglevel.mksAll=5" but without "mks.x.resetModMap=FALSE".

    Attachment(s)

    log
    vmware-vmplayer-3985.log   75 KB 1 version


  • 100.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Dec 20, 2023 05:20 PM

     

    Ah sorry, it should literally be "vmware.log" in the folder with the VM file.  So something like: /home/username/vms/MyWin10VM/vmware.log .



  • 101.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 21, 2023 10:52 AM
      |   view attached

     

    Here you go.  It's the log file for the same session I sent yesterday.  There was a later session, hence the -0 in the name.

    Attachment(s)

    log
    vmware-0.log   254 KB 1 version


  • 102.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Nov 14, 2023 10:14 PM

    Two things people can try:

    (1) Power off the VM, and add the config option:

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE

    This might cause your Linux VM's input to hang if the Guest tries to Sleep/Hibernate, but it may work-around the problem.

    (2) Power off the VM and make sure the VM has a USB controller, and add this config option to switch to the virtual USB keyboard:

    keyboard.vusb.enable = TRUE

    That will switch from using the PS/2 keyboard to the USB keyboard, but may make your key-repeat get stuck more often.

    We think there's more than one problem going on here, so if people can confirm if setting either (or both) of those options fixes it that would be helpful.

    Specifically, we'd love to know your Host OS, Guest OS, whether 3D is On/Off in your VM, and whether the Guest/Host are using Wayland.



  • 103.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 15, 2023 08:26 AM

    > Specifically, we'd love to know your Host OS, Guest OS, whether 3D is On/Off in your VM, and whether the Guest/Host are using Wayland.

    I'll see if I can test the vmx settings, but I can answer these questions first

    Windows 10 host, Fedora 38 guest both up to date.

    3D is turned on in my VM (nvidia card in the host) and I am using X11 because Wayland support in a VM is still bad. (clipboard does not work which is far more annoying than I assumed it would be)

    I did try Wayland due to another non vmware issue I was having and it happened to also lock up the keyboard and mouse after a few minutes. I don't have a reliable way of reproducing the problem however, I've not had it happen for 2 days now.

    I do have a case open for this issue.



  • 104.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 27, 2023 09:07 AM

    Thanks banackm,

    Adding "keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE" to the config fixed the issue for me.

    Host: Windows 11 22631.2715
    Guest: openSUSE Tumbleweed x86_64 (Kernel: 6.5.4-1-default)
    Accelerate 3D graphics: Enabled
    $XDG_SESSION_TYPE: x11

     



  • 105.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 31, 2024 10:54 PM

    Upgraded to 17.5 today after dropping $199 as I have not been keeping up with things using a friends old version but recent news made me jump in to get a license of my own before things come a monthly sub heckscape ...  was not having this issue before but yeah am now and it is VERY frustrating indeed!



  • 106.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 31, 2024 11:02 PM

    199 is a lot of money.  I never paid that for Workstation that I remember.  I think that is the price for a full new install license.

    I would always write to sales support for a discount, and they always honored it even when skipping versions.  This may change now that Broadcom took over.



  • 107.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 01, 2024 01:55 AM

    Correct I bought I non-upgrade license not cheap for sure but now I have a current key I been using this key which was a friend of mine had which was for 14 ...very old - I been using it more than long enough so I don't mind just buying my own key as I was starting to have more and more problems  using that old version ...finally figured today yeah ok pony up already but I not a fan of revolving subscriptions model but that seems to be the model all things are gravitating to...  so hopefully I have more trouble-free years ahead as certainly compared to virtualBox there no beating this one...   

    anywho back to the subject ... 

    ... seems the chatter about the above piece 'worked' I have not had any more freezing on the keyboard front via adding the two config file entries... 



  • 108.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 02, 2023 12:15 AM

    Thanks for the suggestion.  I added the following lines to my .vmx config file on 2023-11-15 and haven't seen the issue since.

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = "FALSE"
    keyboard.vusb.enable = "TRUE"

     I don't know which of the two resolved it for me.



  • 109.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 02, 2023 01:24 PM
    Right now the money is on: keyboard.allowBothIRQs = "FALSE" I had a call open and that was the fix that made the problem go away for over a week now.


  • 110.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 21, 2023 01:59 PM

    So it does too for me. Thanks



  • 111.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 06, 2023 11:19 PM

    CASE REPORT

    We recently encountered this problem while trying to deal with another issue-- ZFS data corruption under Ubuntu 22 when, and only when, running under VMWare 17.0.  In hopes of a fix, we upgraded to 17.5.0.

    IMMEDIATELY, all guest VMs began experiencing lag of up to several seconds per keystroke, even when completely idle.  System Monitor, top, and iotop indicate no unusual loads.

    INITIAL CONDITIONS

    HOST

    The host system is an Intel Core i7-8700K (0x6:0xE//0x6:0x9E:10) with 32 GB of RAM and 16GB of SSD-backed swap (which is not normally used).  The graphics hardware is an NVidia Geforce RTX2060 with 12GB of VRAM.  Storage is provided by a combination of WD Black NVMe SSD primary, and Samsung Pro SATA SSD secondary, storage, with a large rotary HDD as tertiary backup storage.

    The host system runs Rocky Linux 9.  It uses X11, not Wayland.  It uses the nvidia driver, presently UMD Version NVIDIA 535.104.05.  The display resolution is 4K, and the display device is a 60Hz LG monitor connected via DisplayPort.

    The host system has been THOROUGHLY forced through benchmark and stress tests, which it passes.  Thermal monitoring is conducted via OSPower (Konkor), Vitals, and the NVidia control panel.  All conditions appear nominal.  Deliberately throttling CPU core count and/or speed does not seem to affect either issue.

    GUESTS

    The guest VMs are running Ubuntu 22.  Only one is run at a time.  The resources allocated are:

    CPU topology: 2 packages of three cores each.

    VT-d, IOMMU, and CPU performance counter passthroughs are all DISABLED.

    Memory: 12-16GB.

    Video: 512 MB VRAM

    Windowing system: X11

    Resolution: Variable; 4K nominal

    Storage: 250 GB multi-file dynamically sized.

    Host storage backing: SSD or NVMe; ZFS or ext4 filesystem.

    Scope of duties: Very large software and firmware image builds (OpenWRT, Yocto, Buildroot, rebuilds of GCC compiler suite).

    Notes:
    VMs are running primarily from SSD storage, though we have moved them to NVMe storage while investigating the Ubuntu 22 ZFS data corruption issue and observed no change in either that issue, or this keyboard delay issue.

    EXPERIMENTAL FINDINGS

    1. Adding:


    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE

    keyboard.vusb.enable = TRUE

    produced no apparent change.

    2. Disabling 3D acceleration in the guest WITHOUT the keyboard option changes SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED keyboard latency from 1000-3500 ms to perhaps 30-70 ms.

    3. With 3D acceleration disabled, additionally applying the option:


    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE

    FURTHER IMPROVED keyboard latency from perhaps 30-70 to ms to 20-30 ms.

    4. With both of the above improvements, additionally applying the option:


    keyboard.vusb.enable = TRUE

    FURTHER IMPROVED keyboard latency from 20-30 ms to effectively imperceptible.

     

    OTHER FINDINGS OF INTEREST

    1. Even when keyboard latency was at its worst, using the mouse wheel in Firefox produced instant response when rolled one click.  This is significant, as comparing these latencies this is generally a very good test for determining overall X11 input latency.

    2. Our ZFS data corruption issues, while still not fully resolved (we are falling back to ext4), were SIGNIFICANTLY EXACERBATED when the guests were using 3D acceleration.  Additionally, we experienced frequent hangs and crashes when using both Ubuntu and Rocky Linux 9 guests for Yocto builds while 3D acceleration was on.  We have tried multiple versions, and multiple packagings (official; distro; community; etc.) of the NVidia drivers, and observed no effect on the guests.  Graphics, even accelerated graphics, on the HOST are very stable, to the point where a 3D game was installed via Steam and played successfully at punishing graphics settings, while a compile was running in the background, so we believe the host graphics to be stable and sound.

    OUR CONCLUSIONS

    1. VMWare's current testing and Quality Assurance (QA) processes for Workstation are clearly and demonstrably inadequate.  This thread alone provides strong evidence of serious deficiencies that were immediately obvious as soon as the guests were powered on, on common hosting solutions.

    2. The evidence strongly suggests that VMWare is considering testing results from ESXi or other products as adequate stand-ins for equally comprehensive testing results from VMWare Workstation, which they CLEARLY are not.  This is, frankly, starkly obvious.  The configurations people are reporting problems on are very basic, very common configurations for Workstation, but ones which would not be common for other products.  The only reasonable explanation for issues this severe sailing through testing of VMWare Workstation is that at least some changes ARE NOT being adequately tested on Workstation.  I find it unlikely that VMWare would completely blow off testing, so the reasonable middle-ground is that, during what is absolutely an economically challenging time in the market, VMWare has reduced co-testing of at least some critical changes across its product base.  WHILE UNDERSTANDABLE GIVEN THE EVENTS OF RECENT YEARS, THIS STRATEGY IS *CLEARLY* NOT WORKING, AND NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED.  UNRESOLVED, THIS PRACTICE *WILL* PROVE TO BE MORTALLY DANGEROUS TO WORKSTATION AS A PRODUCT.

    IN CLOSING

    We rely on VMWare Workstation to provide permanently reproducible sterile build environments for embedded systems customers.  Our ability to do this efficiently and reliably this directly affects both the security of these products, and the environments into which they placed.  We take our clients' security and quality extremely seriously, and will push back hard when our vendors compromise our ability to protect their interests.  Likewise, our reputation is extremely important to us, and we insist that products which act as an interface between us and our clients hit high standards.

    We already know your people are of exceptional quality.  But going forward, we must respectfully demand that we see that more clearly reflected in the products you ship.

    Sincerely,

    Matt Heck
    Principal Firmware Engineer
    USA Firmware LLC
    /
    President
    Hard Problems Group, LLC
    /
    US INFRAGARD Southern Nevada



  • 112.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 07, 2023 01:10 AM

     I sympathize with your problem, There are a litany of issues with VMware's hosted products that they seemingly have ignored by their silence and inaction - witness the debacle of over 2 years of complaints about poor performance on 12th Gen and newer Intel Core CPUs with ZERO, ZILCH, NONE response or apparent action by VMware. I'll also agree with you that the slavish devotion to ESXi has caused the hosted products to become second class citizens. They don't pay attention enough to the differing needs of the hosted platforms because they want to cut corners and use as much ESXi tech when possible whether it's good for the hosted products or not. 

    You're lucky if VMware sees anything here and takes action on it. 

    My only suggestions are:

    • Open service requests for problems you can reproduce. Yes, its annoying. Yes, it might cost some money. But that's the only way issues get any kind of "guaranteed" attention from VMware engineers.
    • Perhaps a private message to  (last I checked before the Broadcom closing he was the product manager assigned to both Fusion and Workstation) would help drive your point home. Realize that this is a user-to-user forum, not any kind of official VMware support organization. 


  • 113.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 16, 2023 08:53 PM

     This seems to have also helped with the freezing issue when using VMWare WS Pro 17.5. Prior the VM would lock up after 10-20 minutes of usage. Just used it for an hour with no freezes.



  • 114.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 08, 2024 05:18 PM

    This worked for me - fixed everything... thanks!



  • 115.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem



  • 116.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 15, 2024 08:27 AM

    I saw these issues when upgrading from vmware 16.1 to 17.5.

     

    Since then I have rolled back to VMware 17.02.

    This weekend (13th\14th Jan)  I have downloaded and "upgraded" to 17.5 I had only one reoccurrence but that was after running out of memory. Which only effected one VM.This was on Windows 11 23H2, had a throtterling problem but that was fixed by disabling throttling see  search for article Solved: VMWare Worksation 17.5 Pro preformance issue on Wi... - VMware Technology Network VMTN

    I also had problems on Windows 10 22H2 this time completely uninstalled vmware 16 and installed 17.5 reimported a number of VMs and its stable.

    The likely cause is the upgrade, maybe I should have upgraded to 17.0 or 17.0.2 first?

    There is a rumour that 17.5 has had a "silent update" due to the on going merger actions with broadcom, this I cannot verify. I have no proof whatsoever and is only a rumour but all the hashes from the installers I've had all match but the build version of the install is 2.XXXXXXXXX hash matches what the web page says.

    Has any one got a installer from the date released? Is the hash different? If you can post it I can check it. It will be checked in a secure way

    if some could either use dropbox or google share from there GDrive I would like to test the hash.

     

    if yo what to test the hash the current value is on the download page. 

     

    If you want to test your self a hash compare file can be found here :GitHub - rich98/hash_compare

     

    The last point is that both hosts are fully up to date with system patches, can't rule out that the issue was being caused by windows itself.

     

     

     



  • 117.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 19, 2024 03:30 AM

    Using the both options actually resolve the frequent freezing issue on my side.



  • 118.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 22, 2024 04:23 AM

    (special thanks for the elongated reply from )

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = "FALSE"

    seems to do the trick.

    Host OS: Windows 11 Enterprise

    Guest OSUbuntu 22.04.3 LTS

    Issue encountered with3D Enabled3D Disabled
    Waylandyesyes
    Xorgyesyes

     

    Which has kept me on 17.0 until reading this thread.

    With changes: ubuntu-vm appears stable on 17.5.0 build-22583795 and latency improved greatly.

     

      



  • 119.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 24, 2024 10:29 AM

    This is probably a stupid question, but where does one add this config option? There's nothing in the GUI...



  • 120.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 28, 2024 11:02 PM

    Open the configuration file within the folder of the VM.



  • 121.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 17, 2023 10:56 AM
    so I checked all the usual suspects and nothing could explain it, then I checked task manager and for some reason trend micro (not my choice) and spotify were going crazy. I force closed spotify and now my VMs behave exactly like i'm used to (good for the hardware Im given). So strange that spotify was causing some kind of interaction


  • 122.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 20, 2023 08:40 PM

    Interesting, although in my case I have neither Trend Micro nor Spotify installed and have experienced the issue just as others have described.



  • 123.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 24, 2023 11:41 AM

    Just to point out that starting from a fresh Windows 11 install Workstation 17.5.0 works without this issue, while before with my old environment I had no keyboard and no mouse in the guest after some minutes.



  • 124.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 25, 2023 05:44 PM

    Add me to the list of people encountering this issue. I am trying the recommended change of "keyboard.allowBothIRQs = FALSE" in the config file to see if this helps.



  • 125.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Nov 25, 2023 09:41 PM

    So upgrading had that issue, but Fresh Installing it doesnt? 

    I upgraded, got the same, on Windows 11. 



  • 126.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 08, 2024 02:06 PM

    It is solved yet? It seems in the post people downgrade the VMware? I think I still encounter this problem.



  • 127.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Jan 28, 2024 09:38 PM

    I recently upgraded from the latest Workstation Professional v16 to the latest Workstation Professional v17.5 after a host hardware upgrade to the latest Intel Core 9 14900K CPU.  I have always installed the enhanced keyboard driver (even though I have no idea of what benefit it provides), but I will state I am facing no issues with a Windows 11 host running the latest available update from Microsoft.  All default features are enabled on my host, and my guest OS is also running the latest Windows 11 Professional with all default features enabled.  I have absolutely disabled nothing, and I am facing no performance issues or keyboard issues.  My host has significant memory (192GB), and I have my VMs configured to make use of this memory.

    My previous workstation was another story.  That was a dual CPU Dell Precision Workstation.  This machine was very old and did face performance issues.  I could not update it to the latest Windows 10 updates let alone Windows 11.

     



  • 128.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 28, 2024 09:05 AM


    Guess who fixed a bug in a hanging keyboard? It only took 4 months to get it fixed!

    VMWare 17.5.1 release notes:

    Resolved Issues

    • Keyboard hangs on Linux guest virtual machines

      Linux guest virtual machines might have their keyboard processing hang after specific combinations of keyboard/mouse events.

      This issue is resolved.

    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Pro/17.5.1/rn/vmware-workstation-1751-pro-release-notes/index.html

    I made a backup of my VM and upgraded to 17.5.1. I skipped the encryption and HW compatibility upgrades for now and will make sure that everything keeps working before I'll upgrade those :). Hopefully this case is now closed!



  • 129.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 28, 2024 09:22 PM

    Paid product by the way. Unreal. At least they fixed it, that's something.



  • 130.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 28, 2024 09:54 PM

    So does this mean we can remove the

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = "FALSE"

    workaround?



  • 131.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 28, 2024 10:21 PM

    I don't think I tried the allowBothIRQs trick. I was too frustrated to try re-installing 17.5.0 since I had already backed out of it.

    But... the issue I was having is indeed gone in 17.5.1. New company and new machine (same model), so I can't be sure it will be fixed for you.

     



  • 132.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 28, 2024 10:57 PM

     wrote:


    Guess who fixed a bug in a hanging keyboard? It only took 4 months to get it fixed!


    My bet is that we'd still be waiting for this bug fix had there not been a high priority security issue that needed to be released. 

    VMware is not very good about pushing out releases on a timely basis that simply fix bugs. 

     



  • 133.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 29, 2024 12:46 AM

    What’s weird is I am positive this issue existed before October of last year but 17.5 released in October. 



  • 134.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Feb 29, 2024 02:14 AM

    Depending how late in the development cycle of 17.5 the bug was reported, it’s not surprising that the bug wasn’t fixed at release of 17.5. This may not be considered a showstopper for release because the work around is pretty straightforward.

    It is disappointing that a tech note wasn’t published with the workaround immediately (it’s not easy to find things in these discussion forums). It’s also a shame that it’s taken 4 months to see a fix. (And I firmly believe that if they didn’t need to get a fix out for a security issue we’d still be waiting). 



  • 135.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Mar 05, 2024 05:10 AM

     Please upgrade to the latest Workstation version 17.5.1 as this issue has been fixed in this release.



  • 136.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Mar 07, 2024 10:03 PM

    Yep all fixed ................at last with 17.5.1 but with new CVE's can't wait for 17.5.2



  • 137.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Apr 09, 2024 12:02 PM

    Running 17.5.1 on:

    System Model: Precision 5560
    System Type: x64-based PC
    Intel64 Family 6 Model 141 Stepping 1 Genuine Intel ~2496 Mhz
    BIOS Version: Dell Inc. 1.27.0, 2/1/2024
    Total Physical Memory: 65,256 MB

    Hosting Win11, .vmx file has following:

    keyboard.allowBothIRQs = "FALSE"
    keyboard.vusb.enable = "TRUE"

     

    VMs will just freeze, only option is to restart. 

    17.5.1 hasn't resolved this issue. 



  • 138.  RE: Workstation 17.5.0: (enhanced?) keyboard driver problem

    Posted Dec 27, 2024 04:38 AM

    Hi, I finally got it to work with V17.5.

    HOW I FIXED THE KEYBOARD ISSUE IN VMWARE V17.5