Your option is very popular with profiteers. It is just normal folk being ******** by software companies that find your opinion gross. Companies like Adobe forcing people into expensive subscriptions but offering no meaningful upgrades or even human support for their products are getting away with highway robbery. Like all corrupt organizations they exist to enlarge themselves without providing value. That's not commerce, that's corruption.
I'm happy to pay for real products, not fake "new" software that really doesn't do anything new. Anything with a subscription model is a scam.
Worst of all, the software ends up getting worse over time. Photoshop ran better and did more stuff on Mac OS Tiger (10.6) than it does today. If you are too young to have used Tiger then you don't know you are getting scammed. It is the same as how ********* don't know freedom so they don't miss being free.
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 22, 2024 04:04 PM
From: Technogeezer
Subject: vmWare Fusion 13 Pro - MacOS Sonoma VM
Not surprising that macOS can be made to work under UTM/QEMU's Intel emulation on Apple Silicon. I think I've seen articles on doing Hackintosh-like things to get macOS running on UTM. I made a conscious decision not to take the conversation in that direction as it's a more technically challenging endeavor. The other thing is that newer versions of macOS are more dependent on Metal graphics accleleration, which UTM's Intel emulation doesn't provide.
I also hold the unpopular opinion that it's time to move on from abandonware and unsupported macOS releases. Yes, exceptions do exist - I'm aware of that. I do wish that Apple would provide a mechanism (paid option??) to deliver security fixes for older macOS releases so that it's not as risky for users that need to run older software. But they don't…
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- Paul (technogeezer)
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 22, 2024 02:59 PM
From: drbill
Subject: vmWare Fusion 13 Pro - MacOS Sonoma VM
macOS Mojave 10.14.6 runs quite nicely on UTM as does Mac OS 9.2.2 (although Mac OS 9 runs better on SheepShaver)
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 20, 2024 07:32 PM
From: Technogeezer
Subject: vmWare Fusion 13 Pro - MacOS Sonoma VM
Clarifying
While Fusion on Apple Silicon doesn't support macOS as a guest, UTM does virtualize macOS Monterey and later on Apple Silicon Macs using Apple's Virtualization Framework APIs. Fusion does not use these APIs so it does not virtualize macOS.
You're out of luck if you need to run any macOS version earlier than Monterey on an Apple Silicon Mac.
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- Paul (technogeezer)
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 20, 2024 01:19 PM
From: Technogeezer
Subject: vmWare Fusion 13 Pro - MacOS Sonoma VM
Fusion on Apple Silicon (M1, M2, M3) does not support virtualization of any macOS version. Use UTM (free) to virtualize macOS on these Macs.
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- Paul (technogeezer)
Original Message:
Sent: Aug 20, 2024 08:27 AM
From: kevin markham
Subject: vmWare Fusion 13 Pro - MacOS Sonoma VM
I need help creating a VM for Sonoma or finding documentation. I am a long-time Fusion user, but I took a break the last few years. Now, I need to start using it again. Since I stopped using the product, I have upgraded my MacBook to an M2 chip. I have the download app from Apple (Install macOS Sonoma app), and when I drag and drop it into the VMWare creation screen, the process starts, but it is followed by a blue terminal screen and a message that it cannot find an operating system. In version 13, there is no selection for a macOS operating system, so I have been selecting "other."
Is version 13 Pro capable of creating a VM for Sonoma, and is there any documentation someone can point me to? Or am I just spinning my wheel, and is version 13 Pro incapable of creating a macOS VM using an M2 MacBook?