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  • 1.  Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 11, 2012 02:48 PM

    Dear all,

    I am using ESXi 3.5 (Free version) and I am triailing Veeam Backup & Replication. The most I can get out of it is 5 - 6 Mb/s My VM is 570GB and the whole thing is taking 25 odd hours.

    Is this a limitation to the free version or have I go something wrong??



  • 2.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 11, 2012 02:55 PM

    Can you provide more detail about the phyiscal setup of the networking and storage?



  • 3.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 11, 2012 03:24 PM

    Yes,

    I have tested this on two servers now:

    HP Prolain ML150 G2 dual xeon, 8GB & HP XW4600. Network is just a 10/100 switch between (currently) the xw4600 and my win 7 64bit desktop. Veeam says the bottleneck is source 99%, Proxy 57%, Network 0%, Target 0%

    Im just testing currently doing a low budget fesability test to try to get some funding releast. The thing is I don't know if its slow because im using the free version. I was under the impresion that vmware brought in limitations on V.4 esxi?? But Im only starting with this stuff so its all a little confusing?

    Is this enough info?

    Storage:

    ML150 G2 dual xeon = Raid 5, controller is an adaptec 2610SA

    the xw4600 is just silgle onboard Sata

    Both seem to run exactly the same 5-6mb/s no higher



  • 4.  RE: Bottleneck = source
    Best Answer

    Posted Jun 11, 2012 04:12 PM

    You are slow because you are using Veeam in network mode (stating your infrastructure design) across a 100 mbits line.

    If you do some calculations, 100 mbits equals 12.5 MBs, this is your theoric maximum speed. But the management interface of ESXi hosts is known to be unreliable when it comes to file transfers, so 5-6 MBs is what is usually seen is such configuration.

    Check with Veeam User Guide, is better to use SAN mode or Virtual Appliance mode, and upgrade your line to 1 gbits.

    Luca.



  • 5.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 12, 2012 08:16 AM

    Thanks for this. I was stumped - Also thank you for the leads of what to possibly try next.



  • 6.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 08:47 AM

    Hi,

    I've rebuild a svr 2003 and put veeam backup & replicate on it. this is now on the same ESXi3.5 as the VM im trying to backup. I have set up a repository drive on a physical win7 machine (removable USB) and connected a Gigabit switch between this and the ESXi3.5 machine. I find that when I set up the veeam proxy in SAN model get the following bottleneck values: Source=99%, Proxy=9% & the others are 0%.However the transfer rate never goes above 2MB/s.

    If I use Virtual mode I get: Source=99%,Proxy=37% &* the others are 0%. The transfer shoots up to 14MB/s

    This is good,but I'm still not understanding why there is such a high bottleneck on my source

    Kind regards,

    Oliver



  • 7.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 09:17 AM

    The storage is local to the ESXi server? If yes, use virtual appliance mode and not SAN mode.

    About the speed and bottleneck, 99% on source means the source storage is slow, or at least is the slowest part of the backup chain.

    Luca.



  • 8.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 09:38 AM

    Its jumped up to 26MB/s now, I guess this is to do with the tcpip throttling up.

    due

    Because I cant attach a usb external to the ESXi (due to my current skill level) I have pointed the target/repository to an external machine. The machine running Veeam is on the ESXi but the target is not.

    Although the SAN mode started off slow are you of the opinion that it would eventually transfer faster?



  • 9.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 01:58 PM

    If the storage is physically inside the ESXi host (local storage) than you cannot use SAN mode. You are successful because Veeam has a failover to network mode in its default configuration, and you are probably ending up using this mode.

    Go with Virtual Appliance mode.

    Luca.



  • 10.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 02:07 PM

    Thank youfor your assistance, Bottle necks are now at about 50% and transfer time have been cut by a third.



  • 11.  RE: Bottleneck = source

    Posted Jun 15, 2012 02:18 PM

    You're welcome, glad it worked.

    Luca.