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  • 1.  Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 01:47 AM
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    I apparently don't know what windows to buy or I'm doing something wrong, despite all my efforts... I can't seem to get windows install on my VM Ware machine. Error - "This virtual machine cannot be powered on because it requires the X86 machine architecture, which is incompatible with this Arm machine architecture host." See KB-84273.

    I'm using a macbook air with sonoma 14.3.1. 



  • 2.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 06:49 AM

    I would suggest looking at the Windows 11 section of the document you can find here: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Documents/The-Unofficial-Fusion-for-Apple-Silicon-Companion-Guide/ta-p/2939907

    You are trying to run an x86 version of Windows on a Mac that does not have an x86 processor, Fusion can’t do that. You need to use an ARM version of Windows, the document will help you.

     



  • 3.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 06:55 AM

    Hi,

    if I see correctly you try to install x86 version of Windows on a new MAC equipped with the new Mx processor. On this processor will not work the x86 version of any OS's. You need to install there the ARM version of systems, while the virtualisation software mediate the real HW to the OS installed in VM.

    So go to the Microsoft page and download there the ARM version of the Windows you need or have bought. You can install any kind of Windows like Win 11 Home, Pro, Win Server but it must be for the ARM architecture.

     



  • 4.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 12:01 PM

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    So go to the Microsoft page and download there the ARM version of the Windows you need or have bought. You can install any kind of Windows like Win 11 Home, Pro, Win Server but it must be for the ARM architecture.

     


    Alfista,

    There is no such thing on Microsoft's site - that's one of the main user problems.  There is no ISO image for Win11 ARM available to download other than for Enterprise customers (and I even just checked my Visual Studio subscriptions page, and there is no ARM version available for download).



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  • 6.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 04:09 PM

     The answer in the Microsoft link you provided is misleading at best and wrong at worst (at least for Mac users). I’ve been working with Windows 11 ARM on Fusion for close to 2 years now.

    Microsoft still does not provide a web site for consumers to download a Windows 11 ARM installation ISO like they do for Windows 10 and 11 x86_64.

    The Windows Insider program only provides Hyper-V VHDX files of Windows 11 ARM Beta, Dev, and Canary channel builds. These are not ISOs and must be converted to VMDK before even being considered for use with Fusion. They are also pre-release software versions and should only be used by people willing to accept that (and that realize that these builds may expire, necessitating a complete reinstall of the VM and losing your data).

    The Microsoft article also talks about going to uupdump.net  That only works if you have a Windows system. You can’t use uupdump to build a Windows 11 ISO on a Mac. 

    There is zero need for Mac users to go to a non-Microsoft site like Sourceforge or use uupdump to obtain Windows 11 ARM. Almost all Fusion users that want to install Windows 11 ARM should use the GA/Retail Channel ISO that is available by using Fusion 13.5’s “Get Windows from Microsoft” feature found in the “Select an installation source” dialog.  The ISO you get from that process is built directly from Microsoft’s ESD files, and you get to select from all the available Windows supported languages. 



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  • 8.  RE: Windows Install Errors
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    Posted Mar 13, 2024 04:45 PM

    Still not the right place for answers.  Either use the Fusion built-in mechanism to get Win 11 for ARM, or read the unofficial guide pinned in the forum here.



  • 9.  RE: Windows Install Errors
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    Posted Mar 13, 2024 05:15 PM

    There is no reason to bring parallels into the conversation. Fusion provides the exact same mechanism for getting windows 11 arm that Parallels uses.

    i’ve found that the Microsoft forums have very limited knowledge about running  Windows 11 ARM on Apple Silicon Macs. You are better off posting any questions about that here rather than in the Microsoft forums



  • 10.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 14, 2024 06:49 AM

    Yes, it was, while when you read carefully then you will see that there is a link how to get the right Windows including license and that there is also the option how to do it in Fusion too.

    And Windows for Arm is long on the market while they are also installed on the Raspberry PC's. Its only need to look on network how and where to get it and how to install it on the specific PC.

     



  • 11.  RE: Windows Install Errors

    Posted Mar 14, 2024 04:30 PM

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    Yes, it was, while when you read carefully then you will see that there is a link how to get the right Windows including license and that there is also the option how to do it in Fusion too.

    And Windows for Arm is long on the market while they are also installed on the Raspberry PC's. Its only need to look on network how and where to get it and how to install it on the specific PC.


    I disagree with you on a couple of points, based on using Windows 11 ARM on Fusion and answering questions here for about 2 years now.

    Licensing stopped being an issue well over a year and a half ago. Users can use purchased Windows 11 licenses (e.g. Retail or System Builder) to activate Windows 11 ARM. Nothing special about that.

    If you're looking for information about obtaining Windows 11 ARM media for use with Fusion, you will find a lot of outdated/inaccurate information on the network. More experienced users may be able to sift through the noise and find the right answer. Less experienced users won't, end up getting frustrated, and posting here. 

    That's why I wrote and maintain the unofficial guide found in the VMware Fusion Documents section of this forum - to eliminate the need for users to have to comb through the web and piece together things on their own. The unofficial guide provides up-to-date guidance specifically tailored to running VMs (including Windows) with Fusion on Apple Silicon. Readers are getting the benefit of the collective experiences of the VMware Fusion community since Fusion was released on Apple Silicon - in one place. The unofficial guide has helped out many users here. There's something to be said about the advantages of a pdf/e-book compared to a video, especially if you're using it as a reference while you perform an installation. You don't need to pause and rewind an e-book to verify a step or review that you understood something.

    The articles you reference make things more complicated for users of Fusion that want to install Windows 11 ARM. They recommend things like:

    • Using third party, community sourced Windows installers. As a former security professional, that sets off red alerts all over the place. You may trust them. I do not. My biggest concerns are what exactly have been done to the installers and how do they differ from what Microsoft has provided.
    • Using uupdump.net to build ISO. That's a complex task that normal users have trouble with. I not only answered questions, but used the process extensively before easier-to-use options became available. it's not easy for anyone other than technically oriented users. And you need a Windows machine to build them - they don't build for Windows 11 on the Mac.
    • Using Insider Preview releases. That's also a process that normal users have trouble with, starting with the need to convert Windows Insider VHDX files to VMware virtual disk format. The pre-release nature of Windows Insider software is also something that less experienced users will eventually have trouble with. For example, Dev and Canary channels expire with no easy way to update them in-place when run under Fusion. Tell a user that they'll have to back up all their data and re-install Windows when those builds stop working because they expired. 
    • Installing Parallels and using that to get a copy of Windows. That's not what users of Fusion want to hear. 

    The tool that VMware built into 13.5 is simpler than any one of these, and it obtains the official release build from Microsoft's ESD (not UUP) repositories. VMware does document how to use Fusion's tool. The unofficial guide helps people along with additional tips and techniques.

    My next best option to obtain Windows 11 ARM for use with Fusion would be to use the open-source CrystalFetch utility found in the Mac App store and written by the developers of UTM. It uses the same process to obtain Windows 11 ISOs  as Fusion's built-in utility,  If you want to use UTM instead of Fusion to run a Windows 11 ARM VM, CrystalFetch is the best way to get a copy of the installation ISO.



  • 12.  RE: Windows Install Errors
    Best Answer

    Posted Mar 13, 2024 11:37 PM

    This was perfect, for some reason I didn't see the built in mechanism option... but that worked perfectly.  THANK YOU!.