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Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

  • 1.  Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 06:35 AM

    Hello,

    We have a few different domains that we manage using SEPM and have recently upgraded to 14 from 12.

    Since then, a few of our Endpoints are not being updated to the latest virus definitions.

    In one domain, we have 4 machines that are running Server 2012 R2 and they all have different virus definitions. One is up to date and the others are about 4/5 days out. They all connect to the SEPM server fine and are all reporting that they are up to date but they're not, based on the dates given.

    The download protection defintitions are all the same and up to date, but the virus definitions are not.

    Is it likely that the definitions installed on each of the machines are corrupt and will need removing?

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  • 2.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update
    Best Answer

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 07:38 AM

    Are they supposed to get updates from the SEPM or another source?

    Download and run the SymDiag tool on one affected client to see what ti shows:

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH170752



  • 3.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 08:31 AM

    They get their updates from the SEPM server.

    None of the machines have internet access apart from SEPM so rely on the SEPM server for updates.



  • 4.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 08:36 AM

    I'd still run the SymDiag tool on one affected client for an initial diagnosis.

    Aside from that you can enable sylink logging on one affected  client to see the communication between client and SEPM to see if any errors are present in the log.

    How to enable Sylink debugging for Endpoint Protection clients



  • 5.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 08:51 AM

    I've ran the tool and it's reporting that the definitions are corrupted with a few additional warning states.
    Thanks Brian.

    Am I too assume that following the guide for v12 is still applicable for v14 to clear the corrupt defs?
    https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.HOWTO59193.html

     

    Thanks again



  • 6.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 08:56 AM

    Yes, it should still be relevant.

    If I remember, the SymDiag tool has a "Fix" button that you can select to have them autmatically cleared out. It's been awhile since I've used this within SymDiag but I remember it being present.



  • 7.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 10:55 AM

    You are correct!
    It does have a fix button but it seems to be failing at a certain point for me and is reverting me to the document to do it manually.



  • 8.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 11:00 AM

    Do you have a password in place to stop the SEP's smc service? If so, I've seen this behavior happen. SymDiag doesn't prompt for the password and just seems to hang for a period until it eventually times out. May be a bug but I can't say as I don't have a machine to reproduce this with.



  • 9.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 11:26 AM

    It does seem to pause on that part but then does progress through and check it off. But it's after it re-aquires the defs that it fails, as shown below.

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  • 10.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 01, 2017 11:33 AM

    I wonder what would happen if you ran the fix again. Not ideal, but, mostly out of curiosity as to what would take place and if it can correct this after a second try.



  • 11.  RE: Endpoints Out of Date but won't update

    Posted Jun 02, 2017 05:13 AM

    I tried running it again and it returned the same results.
    I've now removed them manually and all servers are now running the most up to date version of virus defs. I will keep an eye on them to ensure that they continue to update though.

    One thing I did notice when removing the def's manually though is the location of the definitions.

    The guide says the location is:
     C:\ProgramData\Symantec\Definitions\VirusDefs\ 

    However, in Version 14, they are located here:
     C:\ProgramData\Symantec\SymantecEndpointProtection\14.X\Data\Definitions