ELIB backup/reorg

[Don Becker]

Having an issue with an elib EDELTA getting error C1LB003E ELIB FULL OR MEMBER SIZE > RESERVE PAGES
Cannot EXPAND.
So I went down path of backing up with IDCAMS/REPRO
Then deleted the current elibs
Defined new elibs with IDCAMS and then INITialized with BC1PNLIB
Then ​used IDCAMS to REPRO backup into new elibs
Go into Endevor and when I try to access an element I get the following..

                                                                      
 THE BASE, DELTA, OR CONFIG REC IS MISSING OR FOOTPRNT INFO IS MISSING.

I'm not seeing anything stand out in the manual.  What am I missing here?
Thanks.
                                                                      


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Don
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[Ollivier-Francois Dorso]

Hi Don,

Can you run a C1BM5000/Validate ?
Also run a CONRPT80 and CONRPT83.
Please keep all sysout related to the Reorg you did and raise a new case, you need assistance from support.
Attach all the doc to the case.

Regards,
Ollivier

[Ollivier-Francois Dorso]

Hi Don,

I have been informed that you already raise a case and Ric already helped you, then I assume the case is solved.
FYI, we have some article available to maintain ELibs, i.e.
Tips and Techniques for Managing Endevor Elibs - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=9558
ELIB performance. - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=11286
Receiving C1LB010S for FUNCTION=018 during a BC1PNLIB Endevor ELIB REORG - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=10416

Please let me know if you have any comment on them.

Regards,
Ollivier.

[Russ Gunter]

Shouldn't he be backing up with BC1PNCPY and not REPRO?

And restoring the same way?

 

Russ Gunter

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[Don Becker]

That's what I'm being told Russ​...I should be using BC1PNCPY.
Can you point me to the link where I can read up on BC1PNCPY?  I've searched CA Endevor in techdocs.broadcom and am not getting the specific details for using BC1PNCPY.  I know there has to be better documentation.

Thanks,
Don

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Don
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[Russ Gunter]

Hi Don,

 

For 18.0 it is

 

https://techdocs.broadcom.com/content/broadcom/techdocs/us/en/ca-mainframe-software/devops/ca-endevor-software-change-manager/18-0/administrating/setting-up-elib-data-sets.html

 

for 18.1 it is

 

https://techdocs.broadcom.com/content/broadcom/techdocs/us/en/ca-mainframe-software/devops/ca-endevor-software-change-manager/18-1/administrating/setting-up-elib-data-sets.html

 

 

Russ Gunter

CA Broadcom Consultant

Internal Revenue Service

Cell: [phone]

(TOD) Mon –  Fri  7:45 AM - 4:15 PM Eastern

 

"Never forget, 'Some gave all, All gave some'"

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit", Harry S. Truman

 

Planned days away, 4/22 & 23, 6/9 &10 (Tentative Based on COVID-19 Status)

 

[Ollivier-Francois Dorso]

Hi Russ,

BC1PNCPY is the right utility to reorganize but it can be very slow when ELIB is VSAM and contains a big number of members, IDCAMS Repro is a good utility to gain time. The reason is VSAM is not performing as well as BDAM.
We have created an article #9558 "Tips and Techniques for Managing Endevor Elibs" ​to explain how to do that.

But, If the performance level doesn't matter for you or if the ELIB is already BDAM or if the number of member in ELIB is not to big, BC1PNCPY should be used as explained in the technical documentation.

Let me know what you think about it.

Regards,
Ollivier

[Karen Turner]

Hi Don,
Hoping you didnt delete the IDCAMS backups here's what I would recommend (pulling this out of the cobwebs):
1) allocate new but do not init new elibs
2) repro the .DATA portion only
3) run bc1pnlib/bc1pnlst with option analyze members to verify endevor can read the file and it looks like your typical elib
4) run conrpt80 against it to verify all its footprints are  intact

Future reference for LB003E:  
1) use bc1pnlib to adjust reserve pages.  The best analysis of reserve pages I learned over the years (Pete!) is to think of it as virtual storage.  ELIBs are basically VSAM pdse's.  when writing a member it first looks to overwrite its existing position in the file, if it doesn't fit it will fragment and write the rest of the member to the end of the file it has to expand.  In order to expand it stores the member being written to the reserve pages , expands the file and writes out the new member.  If the # of reserve pages is too small you get C1lB003E.  

2)  reserve pages is sufficient check the volume where the file resides, could be full, no room it expand, move/reallocate the file to a new pack.

I'll email  an older version of the tech doc Olliver mentions that goes into a little more detail.

Good Luck!
Karen




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[Karen Turner]

Here's the tech doc I was unable to upload.

 

Karen
Karen Turner
Technical Support Sr. Specialist
Endevor Support
Software Code Management Team
860-902-3064 (IP phone)

 

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[Don Becker]

​Thank you very much for the document Karen.  Exactly what I needed.

Thanks,
Don​

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Don
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