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CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

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  • 1.  CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-12-2015 08:21 AM

    I have deleted certain bad facility groups, yet they return again either later the same day or next day. This is without reimporting any custom faciilty groups after deleteing the groups.   How do i kill the groups once and for all?



  • 2.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-12-2015 12:46 PM

    Christopher,

     

    When deleting the bad facility groups are you following the group deletion documentation linked below.

     

    Delete Groups - CA Capacity Management - 2.9 - CA Technologies Documentation

     

    Also, when the groups reappear, do they include any servers or are they just empty groups?

     

    Thanks,

    Charles



  • 3.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-12-2015 01:15 PM

    Also you need to run DM Groups again after you delete b/c that is the job that does group sync between CCR and CCC. So if you delete the groups from CCC and don’t run DM_Groups, the groups will still show up in CCR.

    >KIP

     

    Kip Lamb

    Sr Principal Consultant, Presales

    CA Technologies | Bellevue, WA 98005

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  • 4.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-13-2015 09:00 AM

    DM_groups runs scheduled daily.. is that not enough?  I will delete again and immediately run DM_groups.. thanks



  • 5.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-13-2015 09:20 AM

    rerunning DM_groups puts the deleted groups back in the list



  • 6.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

     
    Posted 11-13-2015 09:25 AM

    Chris,

       If the Group is coming from VCenter then it will be recreated by DMGroups...until you delete the group in VCenter...then when you delete the group in CCC and run DMGroups, it will stay deleted.

     

    David



  • 7.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-13-2015 10:21 AM

    No these groups came from CHS_Custom_Groups.



  • 8.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again
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    Posted 11-13-2015 11:34 AM

    If you delete the group in CCR then it will always come back.

    Are you deleting it via the SQL commands so that it is removed from Data Manager's Oracle DB?

     

    David



  • 9.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-13-2015 12:01 PM

    David is correct. Groups cannot be managed from CCR, even though the UI might make it look as if…

    You have to run the SQL to delete the groups.

    So if you deleted if via the CCR UI and then run DM Groups, yes, the group would show back up. The sync is a one-way sync from DM to CCR.

    >KIP

     

    Kip Lamb

    Sr Principal Consultant, Presales

    CA Technologies | Bellevue, WA 98005

    Office: +1 512 776 0235 | Mobile: +1 425 591 4358 | Kip.Lamb@ca.com

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  • 10.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-13-2015 01:12 PM

    yes i was using the CCR Groups screen.  thanks i will try to figure out the SQL side of accomplishing this.   Thank you again.



  • 11.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

     
    Posted 11-16-2015 09:43 AM

    Chris,

       This was posted earlier, it is a link to the documentation on how to delete the groups, with all the SQL code.

    Delete Groups - CA Capacity Management - 2.9 - CA Technologies Documentation

     

    David



  • 12.  Re: CCR Group Deletion... deleted groups reappear without importing the definitions again

    Posted 11-17-2015 10:40 AM

    Chris,

     

    Were you able use the SQL documentation to remove the desired groups?

     

    If so we can mark this discussion as answered.