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  • 1.  Test Automation

    Posted May 02, 2017 01:15 PM



    We are planning to automate Functional Testing on CA Clarity PPM. 

    Please share your thoughts on achieving it.




  • 2.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 03, 2017 04:36 AM

    Hi Sriraj,


    Functional testing is something you can achieve using various tools (Open Source & Commercial) 

    You first need to find out the scenarios what you need to cover as part of your automation.

    Once you have the Test scenarios ready, you can select any tool and try automating it.


    For e.g. you can use Selenium (open source) which support various programming languages and take it forward.


    Hope the provided information is helpful.




    Srikanth G

  • 3.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 03, 2017 06:15 AM

    Thank you

  • 4.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 03, 2017 05:26 AM

    IMHO, it depends on how much you are "developing" in PPM really.


    If you have lots of custom screens, reports, processes that you need to test through various production cycles then perhaps it is useful, although I would think that automated testing is something that the product developers (i.e. CA!) would be using rather than the user-base - we should have a reasonable assumption that the product is well tested.


    I have looked at this in the past though, but dismissed it as an unwanted overhead - the creation maintenance of the test scripts (and the debugging of them!) appeared to not be worth the effort in pursuing - this was very much a gut-reaction though rather than based on empirical analysis, I concluded that we were not mature (nor complex) enough to gain benefit from automated testing.

    Things that concerned me were the fact that I was not in control of the underlying technical field names - I was concerned that CA might change those as they upgraded versions (this was around the time of the v12 -> v13 upgrade) and I was concerned that the "new UI" in V13 would cause extensive rework in any automated scripts we had developed. I would have similar concerns today with the "even newer UI" in the current releases of PPM.


    If you have a good reason to be doing automated testing and are comfortable using the tools, then of course it is a good idea, just one I could not justify at the time I looked at it. I have not been in a situation since where I thought it would be of benefit either.


    (I think my main concern was having to "debug" any automated test-scripts when something went wrong, it was bad enough having to debug any "Clarity" code that I may have produced  )

  • 5.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 03, 2017 06:16 AM

    Thank you @david.

  • 6.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 04, 2017 07:07 AM

    Implementing one right now.


    Developed using Spock Framework ran by Jenkins.


    You would need to define scope.
    No real point testing CA oob stuff, maybe unless for period you expect fixpacks.
    The real art is to find best balance between overhead and value added.

  • 7.  Re: Test Automation

    Posted May 04, 2017 10:08 AM

    Really depends on your needs.

    If it's assessing impact to performance, we've used loadrunner to simulate high loads.

    CA were using this tool I believe. performance whitepaper


    I've also used selenium and imacros successfully.