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  • 1.  Enterprise x Domain

    Posted 04-26-2017 09:10 AM

    I'm planning my environment and probably i'll need the enterprise, but i don't know right now. I'm testing the 14.1 and installing the domain i was identified that i cannot install the enterprise also i tried change the domain and install enterprise, but i too cannot do it, therefore:

     

    A. Is it posible install the enterprise after installed domain? How to it?

     

    B. Can i install the enterprise and domain on the same box, like it's possible using previous version?

     

    C. If perhaps it's impossible to install enterprise after domain, how can i deploy this task? What steps i need to follow?



  • 2.  Re: Enterprise x Domain
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    Posted 04-26-2017 09:22 AM

    A.      You can install the Enterprise after the Domain, just not on the same system. They must be on separate systems and each must have its own MDB

     

    B.      It has NEVER been possible to have the Enterprise and Domain Managers on the same Windows system. You can have them on the same physical box, such as a VMWare server, but two Windows servers are needed.

     

    C.      To install Enterprise after the Domain, simply install an Enterprise Manager on a different system, then on the Enterprise go to Control Panel, Domains and add the Domain to the Enterprise. Once your Domain and Enterprise are installed you can get help on this specific topic if you need it.

     

    Steve McCormick, ITIL

    CA Technologies

    Principal Services Consultant

    Stephen.McCormick@ca.com

    <mailto:Stephen.McCormick@ca.com>



  • 3.  Re: Enterprise x Domain

    Posted 04-26-2017 09:40 AM

    HI Stephen Mccormick ,

     

    Thank you for answering, let me detail, if i install a domain sharing the MDB with another products, can i revert it and install a enterprise? OR the procedure is uninstall?

     

    Regards

     



  • 4.  Re: Enterprise x Domain

     
    Posted 04-26-2017 10:04 AM

    No not if you want that MDB to be the top level MDB.  Once an MDB is allocated to a domain it cannot be allocated to an enterprise.  Also we always suggest Client Auto Domains have a dedicated MDB. Client Auto hits the database very hard and often. In almost all cases you want a domain to have a dedicated MDB with no other products then use the sql bridge to replicate the common data for other CA products to consume.

     

    Richard Lechner

    Principal Engineering Services Architect

     

    CA Technologies

    Mobile: +1 703 655 7161 | Richard.Lechner@ca.com

     

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  • 5.  Re: Enterprise x Domain

    Posted 04-26-2017 10:28 AM

    As Richard said, we do not recommend sharing the ITCM MDB with other products. This is for performance reasons as well as other concerns around maintenance, upgrades, etc.  ITCM is a VERY heavy database user, and will impact the performance of the other products.

     

    The recommended method to have ITCM share its data with other products is to use the SQL Bridge. This procedure replicates the ITCM database into the other product’s MDB so it can be used. Since the replicated data is only being updated by ITCM as it changes, the impact on the other product is minimal. Also, if you start with a Domain and find at a later time you need an Enterprise, the process to remove the replicated data from the Domain and replace it with data from the Enterprise is relatively simple and has minimal impact on either product, though it does take several hours.

     

    PLEASE listen to this advice. We have seen this scenario many times in the past, and I personally have been involved with many projects to fix this scenario, which is not a simple task and involves considerable disruption to both products.

     

    Steve McCormick, ITIL

    CA Technologies

    Principal Services Consultant

    Stephen.McCormick@ca.com

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  • 6.  Re: Enterprise x Domain

     
    Posted 04-26-2017 09:30 AM

    Install the enterprise then from the enterprise in the gui navigate to control panel>domains right click >add domain

     

    Richard Lechner

    Principal Engineering Services Architect

     

    CA Technologies

    Mobile: +1 703 655 7161 | Richard.Lechner@ca.com

     

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