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  • 1.  vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 05, 2020 06:13 PM

    Hi. 

    Does the vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license come with 2TB VDP for backups?

    We have ESX01 and ESX02 clustered and a storage array.

    If we buy an ESX03 outside the cluster ethernet connection and we have ESX03 VDP, I make the backups of the VMs of the datastores of the storage array and store them in ESX03 since that is where I would have VDP.

    If we have to recover the VMs, can they be recovered at the ESX03 destination or does it have to be recovered in the original datastores of the storage array?

    Thank you.  A greeting.



  • 2.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 05, 2020 06:21 PM

    VMware VDP goes End of Life 3 or 4 years ago and was last shipped with vSphere 6.5 or so.  But you wanna talk about?

    Regards,
    Joerg



  • 3.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 06, 2020 05:14 PM

    what is your alternative at the moment?
    VDR/VDP was one key reason to use vSphere Essentials at all in 2010
    EMC don't even tell our vendor prices for the unbranded Avamaer so we decided to stay at 6.5 2018
    yeah vSphere 6.5 on Skylake SP with Broadwell EVC because that fools tie EVC modes to major versions



  • 4.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 06, 2020 09:58 PM

    VMware dont care about "small" customers so much so they leave this field to 3rd. Party like Veeam, Nakivo and countless others.  For SMB Customers Veeam is the ultimate weapon.

    Regards,
    Joerg



  • 5.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 07, 2020 09:53 AM

    > VMware dont care about "small" customers so much so they leave this field to 3rd. Party like Veeam, Nakivo and countless others*

    get your facts straight

    * VDP is EMC Avamar
    * VMware is a division of EMC
    * EMC was bought by Dell
    * the politics changed


    they hope to sell a piece which was 10 years part of Essentials Plus for extra money but are too dumb to give my VMware vendor over 12 years even a price or a possibility to sell it - talking about "leave this field" is nonsense



  • 6.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 07, 2020 11:23 AM

    They introduces first VDR because they reinvent the wheel by programming their own solution and this ends in a ..... not so successful product to say it friendly. The second attempt was VDP (the avamar stuff) which remove some of the problems by removing functionality  as storing your backup outside from vSphere. (IIRC the last time i worked with VDP only storing the "Backup" on VMFS/ESXi Datastore was supportet).

    Regards,
    Joerg



  • 7.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 07, 2020 11:34 AM

    well, i see no problem with storing on a dadastore

    we have a dedicated NFS server directly connected to each host with 10 GBE
    every month we suspend the appliance and copy it inclduing the memory dump to an external USB3 drive
    there are two of this external drives which are switched each month
    one is disconnected inhouse
    the second one with the older backup is offhouse

    after the external backup just wake up the appliance and you are done
    works like a charm over the last 5 years

    and yes we tested export the external disk via NFS, wakeup the appliance and restore without reboot
    that thing is simply perfect



  • 8.  RE: vSphere 6 Essential Kits Plus license VDP destination recovered

    Posted Oct 05, 2020 06:29 PM

    No one should be using VDP any more, especially not brand new at this point.