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  • 1.  Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 12 days ago

    Hello

    I have recently bought a lenovo thinkpad p16 gen 1 core ultra 5 

    I cannot install vmware as it keeps saying that it will use hyperV. I dont want this.

    I have disable secure boot

    And did various tweaks I found online to allow me to install vmware but nothing seems to work

    Are there any steps I can take to ensure I can install vmware without using hyperV



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  • 2.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    Abdul,
    this has been discussed here continuously. If you look for instructions on this Forum, for the last month, you will see 7-8 longish-item instructions how to disable Hyper-V & stuff. It involves many boots and Utilities. It is dependent on Windows version and type (pro or home). I believe all the instructions are there, if you look hard enough.

    However, you do not need to disable Hyper-V, if you don't have the case of Nested virtualization (=a VM withing VMware VM). There is nothing wrong in having Hyper-V how it is by default - I mean relatively speaking nothing wrong - there are many things in Windows 11 which are just wrong - like the way how all the "new things" in Windows 11 work. Windows 11 performance, by default, is just lousy compared to Linux (yes, I have measured it) in virtualization. Whether disabling Hyper-V would help performance-wise, I don't know.

    You cannot just install VMware without Hyper-V - as you have learned - if you don't disable everything around it. The reason is that VMware in Windows 11, by default, is the 2nd line of virtualization and it works under Hyper-V. That is why you cannot use Nested, because tertiary virtualization is not possible at all. If you completely disable Hyper-V and everything else around it, VMware becomes the 1st line of virtualization in Windows 11 system.

    I hope this explains what you are seeing, why you are seeing it and how you can really do what you want OR why you don't want to do it in the first place because some Win 11 functionality (like Hello, or whatever it is called) is built with those concepts that you want to disable.

    If you really want to disable Hyper-V without any system-wide obscurities, use Linux. It is safe without this patch over patch over patch that Windows has.




  • 3.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    Thanks for the response.

    I am relatively new to VMware. I will search the forums and see if I can find a way to switch it of. 

    The reason I feel I need hyperV switched off is that I want to run phone repair software in a virtual machine. So I need to run software that will be talking to the phone on a very low level. From the limited understanding I have, usb passthrough is a potential problem with HyperV as opposed to using VMware virtualization. 

    Do you know if this is acurate or not?

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  • 4.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    If you want to run phone repair software, either it'll work with Hyper-V as well, or not at all, or maybe spotty. Although I don't have first-hand experience with Hyper-V running apps communitacing via, I presume, USB, but VMWare could be a hit-or-miss as well, due to the nature of virtualized hardware and that throwing off timing. For ewxample I have a car diagnostic device which only work with VMWare if I plug it in while the VM is already running and I attached it to the VM, instead of letting the host initialize it. If I plug it in and then start the VM and attach the device then it does not work. I have Hyper-V running.

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  • 5.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    Abdul,
    as for your question about "usb passthrough" - I don't have any knowledge on that.

    Perhaps somebody else has and replies to you?




  • 6.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted 11 days ago

    Abdul Vorajeeto run VMware Workstation in non-Hyper-V/traditional mode on Windows host, you must deactivate Hyper-V/VBS on the host and then install VMware Workstation.
    If you require more information about running VMware Workstation on a Hyper-V enabled host, please refer to this link: https://techdocs.broadcom.com/us/en/vmware-cis/desktop-hypervisors/workstation-pro/17-0/using-vmware-workstation-player-for-windows-17-0/running-workstation-on-a-hyper-v-enabled-host-win.html


    Thanks,
    Pitphilai

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  • 7.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    Here's a step-by-step guide how to disable VBS: https://community.broadcom.com/vmware-cloud-foundation/discussion/how-to-disable-hyper-v-in-windows-11-24h2 If you really need nested virtualization. Otherwise, like RaSystemlord said, just run VMWare with Hyper-V enabled.

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  • 8.  RE: Trouble installing vmware without hyperV

    Posted 11 days ago

    I'm running Vmware on a windows 11 host - without HyperV - since I need to run Docker inside the Vmware..

    All you need to know about disabling HyperV is in this thread:
    How to Disable Hyper-V in Windows 11 24H2 | VMware Workstation

    I have to repeat step 6 in the above thread quite frequently, since policy updates and wednesday windows updates, reinstall the hyperV
    Step 6: Mandatory step for Windows 11 24H2
    So this requires boot and twice confirming disable in the boot process.

    Best of luck to you.

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