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  • 1.  SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 08:31 PM

    So I keep asking for information regarding performance of SQL on a VM, and it appears SQL 2008 is GREAT! So I was wrong. ESX 4.0 VM performance is VERY close in comparison to Physical Servers.

    I am not above reproach, and I will admit when I am wrong, so I rescend my earlier comments about SQL on ESX 4.0, it would appear this is the best combination price performance and uptime.

    I won't split hairs, and Physical servers STILL are a bit better, but even I have to note the difference is neglible, even though I did the research MYSELF and no one else proved me wrong with numbers.. here they are.

    http://www.virtualization.info/2009/07/benchmark-sql-server-2008-performance.html



  • 2.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 08:56 PM

    Who are you and what have you done with RParker? :smileywink:



  • 3.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 09:03 PM

    > Who are you and what have you done with RParker?

    That was version 1.0, version 2.1 is new and improved.. :smileygrin:



  • 4.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 09:17 PM

    now if Microsoft hasn't had screwed with the licensing to make it a combination of ALL physical CPU's and cores in the cluster for you to be legally licensed.



  • 5.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 09:26 PM


    now if Microsoft hasn't had screwed with the licensing to make it a combination of ALL physical CPU'

    Still doesn't matter, remember Microsoft has a Virtual platform. They screw their own customers, they screw EVERYBODY, the license doesn't work that way. It's licensed by SOCKET.

    Doesn't matter how many VM's you have, each one is licenses by the number of SOCKETS on the host.

    There is no consideration for clusters, it's PER host...Where the SQL VM lives, not potentially ALL hosts it can touch.

    We called MS Sales, that's what they told us.



  • 6.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 09:57 PM

    Yes, it's per host. However, you need HA to protect your hosts and VMs. When you put a SQL VM on a ESX cluster. Microsoft want you to license all sockets on that cluster. For a big shop, it can set up a cluster just for SQL VMs. However, in a big shop, they already have the site license. They really don't need to worry about licnese. For a small shop, you can't afford to have a dedeicate cluster just for SQL VMs. Anyway, Microsoft still $crews you.



  • 7.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Apr 12, 2010 09:36 PM

    Yes, it's per host. However, you need HA to protect your hosts and VMs. When you put a SQL VM on a ESX cluster. Microsoft want you to license all sockets on that cluster. For a big shop, it can set up a cluster just for SQL VMs. However, in a big shop, they already have the site license. They really don't need to worry about licnese. For a small shop, you can't afford to have a dedeicate cluster just for SQL VMs. Anyway, Microsoft still $crews you.

    Not to nit pick here, but VMWare Screws you too when it comes to licensing. :smileyhappy: i'm just saying.



  • 8.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Apr 12, 2010 10:45 PM

    Yes, it's per host. However, you need HA to protect your hosts and VMs. When you put a SQL VM on a ESX cluster. Microsoft want you to license all sockets on that cluster. For a big shop, it can set up a cluster just for SQL VMs. However, in a big shop, they already have the site license. They really don't need to worry about licnese. For a small shop, you can't afford to have a dedeicate cluster just for SQL VMs. Anyway, Microsoft still $crews you.

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    Not to nit pick here, but VMWare Screws you too when it comes to licensing. :smileyhappy: i'm just saying.

    </div>ALL software vendors/manufactures screw the users when it comes to licensing. Adobe is no different/better than Microsoft or VMware (they might even be worse)... The better companies just use lube while they're screwing you, so it doesn't hurt so much...

    VMware VCP4

    Consider awarding points for "helpful" and/or "correct" answers.



  • 9.  RE: SQL 2008 Performance on ESX

    Posted Jan 28, 2010 09:38 PM

    Interesting...I have a SQL 2008 licensing document at the office I think that has a calculation you needed to use in a virtual environment which would use the physical and cores in the cluster devided by the CPU's used to come up with a number of processor licenses you needed to but in oder to have a VM you could use with HA/DRS...

    Their licensing document on the site is much more simplified...to the point of stating that oracle and IBM license by cores,etc but Microsoft doesn't...

    Must have been too much backlash from their bigger clients and they changed it.