Idea Details

Extend pdm_load and pdm_userload functionality

Last activity 05-31-2019 02:08 AM
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08-06-2013 07:05 AM

We need the pdm_load and\or pdm_userload functionality to be extended to work like GRLoader, and read data directly from an Excel file or csv; and to have an ODBC driver to do the same thing from database-sourced data.


09-04-2017 02:54 AM

If I try to combine all comments above then I guess we are looking for a functionality/utility that can process a csv/Excel file and load the data into CA SDM, with a switch to bypass the object layer or not, and with useful error/issue output.


The file could contain records that need inserting and others that need updating and this for any object.


Using any field as a key for the data load seems to be another important element (e.g. using userid for cnt, or maybe e-mail address in another load, depending on what you have at hand or what your customer provides).

09-01-2017 12:41 PM

This idea is being Wish-Listed for potential inclusion in a future release.


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02-25-2016 06:08 AM

Agree for a new utility as mention by Andholmes.

don't like to use pdm_load as this is bypassing object with no check at all and may result of corrupt data.

We internally have crated a small utility that read tab delimited text file and load the data using WS.

This way we are sure that any business logic is applied to the dat

10-21-2015 03:15 PM

This will make loads much easier and less mistakes

10-20-2015 12:40 PM

I Agree. Great Idea.


Extending this idea, I suggest to looking for Create GUI for GRLoader/ADT for CMDB

10-08-2015 11:03 AM

Try directing both STDOUT and STDERR to the log. Sounds like they print the status to STDOUT and the individual prints to STDERR.

10-08-2015 09:49 AM

I would vote for a new utility.  We like the fact that this bypasses the object layer and does not trigger notifications, etc.  However, we would like to see the output from the -v switch be available to pipe to a log file.  When we use pdm_load -v -f example.txt > error.log , the only thing you get in the error.log is a statement that shows the file was loaded.  When you are loading more than 5 records, the information about the 1 record that contained an error is off the screen and you cannot see it.

10-06-2015 02:00 AM

Passing through the object layer is rather vital for this. Not sure if the pdm_(user)load should change, maybe introduce something alongside and call it something like "pdm_objectload"?

09-29-2015 03:42 PM

I am fairly certain that the current approach for pdm_load and pdm_userload behavior is use to their use by that application directly - hence the reason that it does things like bypassing the object layer. As such, some of the inherent behavior would be especially difficult to alter without doing massive changes to the underlying application. Would you get the necessary value if instead of changing the existing utilities, we focused on some new capabilities for data load?

08-18-2015 12:32 AM

Agreed and Voted!

08-17-2015 09:41 PM

Will vote for your idea

11-14-2014 03:34 AM

One of the most important reasons why we typically do not user pdm_load/userload too much is because the data is not sent through the object layer. This means that any triggers are not fired when using these command line tools. We developed our own dataload tool to overcome all this. So if CA want to extend pdm_load/userload then we are all for it, but we would love to see it take the object layer into consideration as well. Another nice improvement would be to do away with the deref-ing and being able to do both inserts and updates from one dataload file, on any field you chose to be the key, or any combination of fields for that manner.

08-07-2013 03:34 AM

08-06-2013 09:06 AM

Also, give the function the intelligence to distinguish between the subtle differences and/or a switch, to do userload vs. load.  Finally, from my experience, the intelligence to deal with UTF-8 without running a separate process; and avoiding accidental multiple UTF conversions.

08-06-2013 07:38 AM

one of the most wanted requirement so far.