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ELIB backup/reorg

  • 1.  ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-13-2020 11:23 AM
    Having an issue with an elib EDELTA getting error C1LB003E ELIB FULL OR MEMBER SIZE > RESERVE PAGES
    Cannot EXPAND.
    So I went down path of backing up with IDCAMS/REPRO
    Then deleted the current elibs
    Defined new elibs with IDCAMS and then INITialized with BC1PNLIB
    Then ​used IDCAMS to REPRO backup into new elibs
    Go into Endevor and when I try to access an element I get the following..


     THE BASE, DELTA, OR CONFIG REC IS MISSING OR FOOTPRNT INFO IS MISSING.

    I'm not seeing anything stand out in the manual.  What am I missing here?
    Thanks.



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    Don
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  • 2.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 03:49 AM
    Hi Don,

    Can you run a C1BM5000/Validate ?
    Also run a CONRPT80 and CONRPT83.
    Please keep all sysout related to the Reorg you did and raise a new case, you need assistance from support.
    Attach all the doc to the case.

    Regards,
    Ollivier


  • 3.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 06:25 AM
    Hi Don,

    I have been informed that you already raise a case and Ric already helped you, then I assume the case is solved.
    FYI, we have some article available to maintain ELibs, i.e.
    Tips and Techniques for Managing Endevor Elibs - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=9558
    ELIB performance. - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=11286
    Receiving C1LB010S for FUNCTION=018 during a BC1PNLIB Endevor ELIB REORG - https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleId=10416

    Please let me know if you have any comment on them.

    Regards,
    Ollivier.


  • 4.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 08:58 AM

    Shouldn't he be backing up with BC1PNCPY and not REPRO?

    And restoring the same way?

     

    Russ Gunter

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  • 5.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 09:05 AM
    That's what I'm being told Russ​...I should be using BC1PNCPY.
    Can you point me to the link where I can read up on BC1PNCPY?  I've searched CA Endevor in techdocs.broadcom and am not getting the specific details for using BC1PNCPY.  I know there has to be better documentation.

    Thanks,
    Don

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    Don
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  • 6.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 09:17 AM

    Hi Don,

     

    For 18.0 it is

     

    https://techdocs.broadcom.com/content/broadcom/techdocs/us/en/ca-mainframe-software/devops/ca-endevor-software-change-manager/18-0/administrating/setting-up-elib-data-sets.html

     

    for 18.1 it is

     

    https://techdocs.broadcom.com/content/broadcom/techdocs/us/en/ca-mainframe-software/devops/ca-endevor-software-change-manager/18-1/administrating/setting-up-elib-data-sets.html

     

     

    Russ Gunter

    CA Broadcom Consultant

    Internal Revenue Service

    Cell: (770) 595-8600

    (TOD) Mon –  Fri  7:45 AM - 4:15 PM Eastern

     

    "Never forget, 'Some gave all, All gave some'"

    "It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit", Harry S. Truman

     

    Planned days away, 4/22 & 23, 6/9 &10 (Tentative Based on COVID-19 Status)

     






  • 7.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 09:27 AM

    Hi Russ,

    BC1PNCPY is the right utility to reorganize but it can be very slow when ELIB is VSAM and contains a big number of members, IDCAMS Repro is a good utility to gain time. The reason is VSAM is not performing as well as BDAM.
    We have created an article #9558 "Tips and Techniques for Managing Endevor Elibs" ​to explain how to do that.

    But, If the performance level doesn't matter for you or if the ELIB is already BDAM or if the number of member in ELIB is not to big, BC1PNCPY should be used as explained in the technical documentation.

    Let me know what you think about it.

    Regards,
    Ollivier




  • 8.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 11:01 AM
    Hi Don,
    Hoping you didnt delete the IDCAMS backups here's what I would recommend (pulling this out of the cobwebs):
    1) allocate new but do not init new elibs
    2) repro the .DATA portion only
    3) run bc1pnlib/bc1pnlst with option analyze members to verify endevor can read the file and it looks like your typical elib
    4) run conrpt80 against it to verify all its footprints are  intact

    Future reference for LB003E:
    1) use bc1pnlib to adjust reserve pages.  The best analysis of reserve pages I learned over the years (Pete!) is to think of it as virtual storage.  ELIBs are basically VSAM pdse's.  when writing a member it first looks to overwrite its existing position in the file, if it doesn't fit it will fragment and write the rest of the member to the end of the file it has to expand.  In order to expand it stores the member being written to the reserve pages , expands the file and writes out the new member.  If the # of reserve pages is too small you get C1lB003E.

    2)  reserve pages is sufficient check the volume where the file resides, could be full, no room it expand, move/reallocate the file to a new pack.

    I'll email  an older version of the tech doc Olliver mentions that goes into a little more detail.

    Good Luck!
    Karen







  • 9.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 11:03 AM
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    Here's the tech doc I was unable to upload.

     

    Karen
    Karen Turner
    Technical Support Sr. Specialist
    Endevor Support
    Software Code Management Team
    860-902-3064 (IP phone)

     

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  • 10.  RE: ELIB backup/reorg

    Posted 04-14-2020 09:04 PM
    ​Thank you very much for the document Karen.  Exactly what I needed.

    Thanks,
    Don​

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    Don
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