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PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

  • 1.  PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Posted 07-20-2017 11:17 AM

    A month or so ago the issue of Type1 versus Type2 PDSEs was brought to the attention of this board in terms of space reuse and performance, etc. etc.

     

    Personally, I'm sold on using PDSE Type 2 but now the question:

     

    I have an installation that just migrated to PDSE Type 1 that involves a large number of datasets. Is it worth the effort to (re)convert them all to PDSE Type 2? If yes, where should we look to see benefits? The tests run to-date show marginal if any benefits but I'm not convinced we're looking in the right places for those benefits.

     

    Alternatively, a re-engineering effort is going to be re-allocating those datasets "in the future" with "in the future" dates yet to be determined as there are a variety of other changes taking place at that time as well.

     

    Would you wait till the re-engineering effort (long-term) or convert them "now"?

     

    Your opinion is of great interest!



  • 2.  Re: PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Posted 07-20-2017 11:19 AM

    Hi John,


    Only datasets that are permanently enqueued would benefit.


    So linklisted and any files allocated to active/active started tasks



  • 3.  Re: PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Posted 07-21-2017 09:27 AM

    Hmmm... ok.... so files such as load libraries for CICS or IMS/DC regions?



  • 4.  Re: PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Posted 07-21-2017 02:19 PM

    Yep, if they are always up.


    Linklist was the killer one for us in a parallel sysplex because that very rarely comes down entirely.



  • 5.  Re: PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Posted 07-27-2017 02:44 PM

    See what road blocks you have and try to get rid of them.

    IBM strategic direction is for LIBRARY type.

    Ultimately, IBM will drop the old format in order to make libraries work with guest operating systems.

    Very long term systems architecture should take this into consideration.

    IBM products use LIBRARY.  This should tell you something.



  • 6.  Re: PDS/E - Type 1 versus Type 2. Is It Worth The Effort...?

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted 07-27-2017 03:31 PM

    The link to the IBM documentation on this is:

    IBM Knowledge Center 

     

    As you can see in the doc they say type 2 performance is better than type 1 with one exception:

    • The PDSE has a RECFM of V, VB, or U
    • The PDSE members are large
    • The application points to a record at the end of the member which it has not previously read.

    So you this would indicate that LOADLIBs with large programs can have slower performance with type 2 PDSE instead of type 1.