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  • 1.  question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
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    Re: question about clists
    "Kay:

    I can't think of any way to not stop processing the CLIST if a task abends, maybe one of gurus on the list can think of a way. But the obvious questions are:

    1) Why is the task abending anyway? Can that be fixed or the program changed to not abend if invoked from CLIST and only issue a message?
    2) Is order important - couldn't you put the task that is likely to abend at the end where it won't matter?

    Dan Miley
    Lockheed Martin


  • 2.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
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    Re: question about clists
    "Kay,
    It's been a long time since I played with clists, but can a clist
    execute a clist? What I am thinking of is the following:

    From the ENTC you would run MAIN_CLIST. This clist consist of several
    lines;

    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKA
    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKB
    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKC
    etc...

    As I said, its been a long time since I played with clists but this
    might work.

    Dan Hall
    Database Administrator
    GE Capital

    T 513 217 5060
    E dan.hall@ge.com

    Middletown, OH 45042
    General Electric Capital Corporation

    GE imagination at work


  • 3.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
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    Re: question about clists
    "Some of you have asked for more information about what we are doing. Unfor=
    tunately, we seem to have a bit of a security hole here, so I can't go into=
    detail about the problem until it is fixed. This would seem to be a catch=
    -22, except that someone has suggested a potential solution offline that I =
    think will work for us. If that works out, I will provide the details afte=
    rwards. Thanks for trying.


  • 4.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA abends=
    , TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make the clist =
    processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter next=
    task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
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    Re: question about clists
    "There is a way around this - but it depends on the purpose of the clist in the first place. You could, for example, run a btach UCF job which has a number of lime mode IO tasks in the input stream. If any task fails subsequent tasks will still run - as each time a task ends Enter-Next-Task-Code is presented. Note - our last task is always either SIGNOFF or BYE because the batch UCF terminal can become disabled if it does not encounter a so long and see you later task before the end of the job stream.

    If we knew how and why the CLIST was invoked in the first place there may be other options available - but without more information I would not be game to suggest them ?

    Cheers - Gary

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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  • 5.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA
    abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make
    the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter
    next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or
    application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
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    Re: question about clists
    "There is a way around this - but it depends on the purpose of the clist in =
    the first place. You could, for example, run a btach UCF job which has a nu=
    mber of lime mode IO tasks in the input stream. If any task fails subsequen=
    t tasks will still run - as each time a task ends Enter-Next-Task-Code is p=
    resented. Note - our last task is always either SIGNOFF or BYE because the =
    batch UCF terminal can become disabled if it does not encounter a so long a=
    nd see you later task before the end of the job stream.

    If we knew how and why the CLIST was invoked in the first place there may b=
    e other options available - but without more information I would not be gam=
    e to suggest them ?

    Cheers - Gary=20

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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    @@ Facsimile +61 (0)8 8226 5311
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    Gary says: Boycott Apple - the hardware company that puts software companie=
    s out of business!=20
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    hnology Services. Computer Viruses: It is the recipient's responsibility t=
    o check the e-mail and any attached files for viruses.


  • 6.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA
    abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make
    the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter
    next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or
    application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov



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    Re: question about clists
    "Dan:

    Good try. But even with nested CLISTs if the first clist blows up the CLIST processor stops.

    Dan Miley
    Lockheed Martin


  • 7.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA
    abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make
    the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter
    next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or
    application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
    "
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    Re: question about clists
    "a clist can execute another clist - but only 1 and as the LAST command in
    the clist source

    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS/DB2 System & Database Architect
    Humana Inc
    502-476-2538
    choelscher@humana.com

    you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






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    Kay,
    It's been a long time since I played with clists, but can a clist
    execute a clist? What I am thinking of is the following:

    From the ENTC you would run MAIN_CLIST. This clist consist of several
    lines;

    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKA
    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKB
    CLIST EXECUTE_TASKC
    etc...

    As I said, its been a long time since I played with clists but this
    might work.

    Dan Hall
    Database Administrator
    GE Capital

    T 513 217 5060
    E dan.hall@ge.com

    Middletown, OH 45042
    General Electric Capital Corporation

    GE imagination at work


  • 8.  Re:question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 07:05 AM
    If you execute a clist containing TASKA, TASKB, and TASKC, and TASKA
    abends, TASKB and TASKC do not get executed. Is there any way to make
    the clist processing continue even if one of the tasks abends?

    I'm talking about the CLIST command that you can execute at the ""enter
    next task code"" prompt, not any CLIST commands within a tool or
    application.

    Kay Rozeboom
    State of Iowa
    Information Technology Enterprise
    Department of Administrative Services
    Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
    Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov
    "
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    Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] question about clists
    "Dan:

    Good try. But even with nested CLISTs if the first clist blows up the CLIST processor stops.

    Dan Miley
    Lockheed Martin


  • 9.  Re: question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 03:09 PM
    There is a way around this - but it depends on the purpose of the clist in =
    the first place. You could, for example, run a btach UCF job which has a nu=
    mber of lime mode IO tasks in the input stream. If any task fails subsequen=
    t tasks will still run - as each time a task ends Enter-Next-Task-Code is p=
    resented. Note - our last task is always either SIGNOFF or BYE because the =
    batch UCF terminal can become disabled if it does not encounter a so long a=
    nd see you later task before the end of the job stream.

    If we knew how and why the CLIST was invoked in the first place there may b=
    e other options available - but without more information I would not be gam=
    e to suggest them ?

    Cheers - Gary=20

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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    > Mobile +61 (0)41 333 1613
    \/ MailTo:gary.cherlet@sa.gov.au
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    Re: question about clists
    "Some of you have asked for more information about what we are doing. Unfortunately, we seem to have a bit of a security hole here, so I can't go into detail about the problem until it is fixed. This would seem to be a catch-22, except that someone has suggested a potential solution offline that I think will work for us. If that works out, I will provide the details afterwards. Thanks for trying.


  • 10.  Re:Re: question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 03:09 PM
    There is a way around this - but it depends on the purpose of the clist in the first place. You could, for example, run a btach UCF job which has a number of lime mode IO tasks in the input stream. If any task fails subsequent tasks will still run - as each time a task ends Enter-Next-Task-Code is presented. Note - our last task is always either SIGNOFF or BYE because the batch UCF terminal can become disabled if it does not encounter a so long and see you later task before the end of the job stream.

    If we knew how and why the CLIST was invoked in the first place there may be other options available - but without more information I would not be game to suggest them ?

    Cheers - Gary

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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    Arithmetic on FORMAT=(DTS) date from #GETIME
    "#GETIME FORMAT=3D(DTS) returns a 64 bit date/time stamp (same as the SQL da=
    te/time stamp) in registers 0 and 1. Does anybody know if you can perform a=
    rithmetic on, for example, successive values of a FORMAT=3D(DTS) date/time =
    stamp.

    In this instance all I am after is differences, often measured in nanoseco=
    nds and rarely across minutes, between two times.

    If I can get the time difference by simply getting successive values of FOR=
    MAT=3D(DTS) and subtracting - then all is beautiful - I could use IDMSIN01 =
    to give me DISPLAY values of the resultant time difference.

    The main reason for asking is that this solves all of the problems with fir=
    st time in one day (or year) and the second time being in another day (or y=
    ear). It also means I don't have to write my own formatting in assembler - =
    but that's been done before 8-)

    TIA - cheers - Gary

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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    Gary says: Grab them by their data - and their hearts and minds will follow=
    !

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    Arithmetic on FORMAT=(DTS) date from #GETIME
    "#GETIME FORMAT=(DTS) returns a 64 bit date/time stamp (same as the SQL date/time stamp) in registers 0 and 1. Does anybody know if you can perform arithmetic on, for example, successive values of a FORMAT=(DTS) date/time stamp.

    In this instance all I am after is differences, often measured in nanoseconds and rarely across minutes, between two times.

    If I can get the time difference by simply getting successive values of FORMAT=(DTS) and subtracting - then all is beautiful - I could use IDMSIN01 to give me DISPLAY values of the resultant time difference.

    The main reason for asking is that this solves all of the problems with first time in one day (or year) and the second time being in another day (or year). It also means I don't have to write my own formatting in assembler - but that's been done before 8-)

    TIA - cheers - Gary

    Gary Cherlet
    Justice Technology Services
    Department of Justice, SA Government

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    Gary says: Grab them by their data - and their hearts and minds will follow!

    This e-mail message and any attachments are qualified as follows: Addressing: If you have received this e-mail in error, please advise by reply e-mail to the sender. Please also destroy the original transmission and its contents. Confidentiality: This e-mail may contain confidential information which also may be legally privileged. Only the intended recipient(s) may access, use, distribute or copy this e-mail. Individual Views: Unless otherwise indicated, the views expressed are those of the sender, not Justice Technology Services. Computer Viruses: It is the recipient's responsibility to check the e-mail and any attached files for viruses.
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    Re: Arithmetic on FORMAT=(DTS) date from #GETIME
    "For some unknown reason, a number of years ago I worked out the format of the IDMS DTS. I pulled my old notes and this is what I had found:

    Bits 0-26 (27 bits) is the date. It is the number of days since 1/1/0001. E..g. 728,827 is 06/19/1996 (showing how long ago I did this :-) )

    Bits 27-43 (17 bits) is the time in seconds. It is the number of seconds since midnight. E.g. 1 - 00:00:01 - 1 second after midnight. 86,399 (x'1517F') is 23:59:59 which is also the max value you'll see.

    Bits 44-63 (20 bits) is a number that represents the sub second in 1/1,000,000's of a second. Max value is of course 999,999 or x'F423F'.

    Unfortunately with this format you will have problems doing direct arithmetic between two values as soon as one date/time stamp is in one second the other in a different second - let along worrying about days or years.

    Time to break out the assembler.

    Regards,
    Steve


  • 11.  Re: question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 11:52 PM
    Kay:

    I can't think of any way to not stop processing the CLIST if a task abends,=
    maybe one of gurus on the list can think of a way. But the obvious questi=
    ons are:

    1) Why is the task abending anyway? Can that be fixed or the program chang=
    ed to not abend if invoked from CLIST and only issue a message?
    2) Is order important - couldn't you put the task that is likely to abend a=
    t the end where it won't matter?

    Dan Miley
    Lockheed Martin


  • 12.  Re:Re: question about clists

    Posted 06-28-2010 11:52 PM
    Kay:

    I can't think of any way to not stop processing the CLIST if a task abends, maybe one of gurus on the list can think of a way. But the obvious questions are:

    1) Why is the task abending anyway? Can that be fixed or the program changed to not abend if invoked from CLIST and only issue a message?
    2) Is order important - couldn't you put the task that is likely to abend at the end where it won't matter?

    Dan Miley
    Lockheed Martin