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temp tapes dropped after 1st close on reload ?????

  • 1.  temp tapes dropped after 1st close on reload ?????

    Posted 03-24-2005 08:52 AM
    I am running a 1-step reload as follows:

    RELOAD NOTIFY 200000 AS SORTEXIT REUSE WORKFILES;


    with dds as follows:

    //SYS005 DD DSN=&&DBL005,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)
    //SYS006 DD DSN=&&DBL006,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)

    starting yesterday, i would get 813-04's after sys005 was closed(opened
    for output) and attempted to be reopened (for input) - our tape guys says
    that CA-1 has every right to delete a temporary tape dataset after it has
    been closed (even though the program has not yet ended...?

    I have never had this happen to me before - now it has heppened twice (in
    two different spots) - is he blowing me smoke? i would have thought that a
    temporary tape dataset would be available thoughout the life of the step
    with (new,pass) coded ... i have been running reloads for a few years and
    never seen this before.

    any opinions would be appreciated

    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
    Humana Inc
    502-580-2538
    choelscher@humana.com





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    Re: temp tapes dropped after 1st close on reload ?????
    "Hello All:

    No smoke here, that is the way CA-1 works. It is putting a default retention
    on the output tape and it will not let it be written over again no matter
    what the data set name is.

    Whenever I perform an Unload/Reload to tape I eliminate the reuse work
    files.

    It will use more tapes but it will avoid the tape management problems.

    Every tape management system on the Market today works exactly like this.

    Back in another life I installed VALU LIB for VCI and CA-1 for CA.

    William M. Allen, Jr.
    ARCH Consulting Associates, Ltd.

    In a message dated 3/24/2005 1:52:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
    choelscher@HUMANA.COM writes:

    I am running a 1-step reload as follows:

    RELOAD NOTIFY 200000 AS SORTEXIT REUSE WORKFILES;


    with dds as follows:

    //SYS005 DD DSN=&&DBL005,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)
    //SYS006 DD DSN=&&DBL006,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)

    starting yesterday, i would get 813-04's after sys005 was closed(opened
    for output) and attempted to be reopened (for input) - our tape guys says
    that CA-1 has every right to delete a temporary tape dataset after it has
    been closed (even though the program has not yet ended...?

    I have never had this happen to me before - now it has heppened twice (in
    two different spots) - is he blowing me smoke? i would have thought that a
    temporary tape dataset would be available thoughout the life of the step
    with (new,pass) coded ... i have been running reloads for a few years and
    never seen this before.

    any opinions would be appreciated

    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
    Humana Inc
    502-580-2538
    choelscher@humana.com (mailTo:choelscher@humana.com)

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    Richard
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    We have a customer using (we believe) IDMS V12.0 + fixes for Y2K !

    We need to upgrade the O/S to Z/OS 1.4 via OS/390 2.10 (from 2.6) .

    Customer does not wish to upgrade IDMS . Is there anyone out there
    successfully running anything like this under Z/OS ?

    Thanks ,
    Richard Hearnden
    Senior Systems Programmer
    CSC UK . Tunbridge Wells .

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  • 2.  Re:temp tapes dropped after 1st close on reload ?????

    Posted 03-24-2005 08:52 AM
    I am running a 1-step reload as follows:

    RELOAD NOTIFY 200000 AS SORTEXIT REUSE WORKFILES;


    with dds as follows:

    //SYS005 DD DSN=&&DBL005,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)
    //SYS006 DD DSN=&&DBL006,DISP=(NEW,PASS),UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER),
    // VOL=(,,,65),
    // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=32756,BLKSIZE=32760)

    starting yesterday, i would get 813-04's after sys005 was closed(opened
    for output) and attempted to be reopened (for input) - our tape guys
    says
    that CA-1 has every right to delete a temporary tape dataset after it
    has
    been closed (even though the program has not yet ended...?

    I have never had this happen to me before - now it has heppened twice
    (in
    two different spots) - is he blowing me smoke? i would have thought that
    a
    temporary tape dataset would be available thoughout the life of the step
    with (new,pass) coded ... i have been running reloads for a few years
    and
    never seen this before.

    any opinions would be appreciated

    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
    Humana Inc
    502-580-2538
    choelscher@humana.com





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