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WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

  • 1.  WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-13-2018 11:11 PM

    Hi team,

    I have a doubt: What is the impact at the level of services and server, have weblogic-full.pbl instead of weblogic-typical.pbl?

    Maybe someone could help me.
    Thanks,
    Richard B.

     



  • 2.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-14-2018 09:49 AM

    Hi Richard:

    Converting to a discussion since is more of a best practices question. Can you discuss the business factors behind this question and why this is of interest?

     

    Thanks

    Hal German



  • 3.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-16-2018 10:25 AM

    Hi Richard,

     

    I don't have any evidence of the impact of statistics on the differences between the 2 pbls.

     

    My understand is that any of then full PBLs will provide you a broad view of what metrics are available to you out of the box metrics.  If you don't have a large environment with a lot of agents producing a lot of metrics it will be ok.  

     

    One of the first thing we will recommend to our customers if they need to reduce metrics is use the typical vs the full.  If you use the typical you can see what metrics are not available and then only add back the ones that are important to you.

     

    Another best practice is keep metric between 2000 and 4000 metrics per agent. This is not always possible but a good rule of thumb.

     

    Norris



  • 4.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-16-2018 06:19 PM

    In a Production environment normally the "typical" will be used to avoid too much impact on application performance caused by the increased instrumentation when using the "full".

    The potential performance impact on the application is normally determined during PRE-PRODUCTION testing and sometimes the "typical" also needs to be tuned/reduced.



  • 5.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-17-2018 09:40 AM

    Sometimes it also matters what the customer expects from monitoring in terms of specific metrics. For example, using the PP CTG Server on OS400 we were forced to use the full pbl because it was the one that allowed us to show the customer desired metrics. 

    Obviously all the considerations made on overhead issues in terms of metrics produced and application load in the production environment remain valid and "central".



  • 6.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-23-2018 08:05 AM

    Configure the PBL File for Typical and Full PBDs

    You can configure the extension for either typical or full configuration.

    • The typical configuration of sharepoint lets you view metrics for overall performance of SharePoint Portal and its components. For a typical configuration, you enable sharepoint-typical.pbd. For this PBD, only critical tracers are enabled to monitor the performance of critical components of the portal server.
    • The full configuration lets you view the worst performing components of SharePoint Portal in a tabular view. For a full configuration, you enable sharepoint-full.pbd. This PBD has all the tracers enabled to monitor the performance of all the components of the portal server. Based on the tabular view, you can also generate a graphical view. This graphical view helps you understand how the worst performing components can affect the other components in the SharePoint Portal Server.

    By default, the PBL file for the extension has typical configuration (sharepoint-typical.pbd) enabled and full configuration (sharepoint-full.pbd) disabled.

    Follow these steps:

    1. Comment out or disable sharepoint-typical.pbd entry and uncomment or enable sharepoint-full.pbd entry in sharepoint.pbl.
    2. Restart the IIS Server.
      The changes take effect.


  • 7.  Re: WebLogic - Full vs Typical - pbl

    Posted 04-23-2018 06:42 PM

    That example from the 9.7 .NET agent Sharepoint extension documentation has a good summary of typical/full differences that in general would apply across all agents.

    Configure the PBL File for Typical and Full PBDs 2 - CA Application Performance Management - 9.7 - CA Technologies Docum…