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is i-nuge finished as a concept?

  • 1.  is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-28-2016 10:51 AM

    Posting this here so Stuart's post shows up in the "CA Endevor" community feed.       


    Is I-NUGE finished as a concept?

  • 2.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-29-2016 10:34 AM

    All I can do is weigh in with a personal opinion, Phil. And since most of you know me, you also know I inevitably have one...


    Is INUGE finished as a concept? I would argue a vehement "no". The concept is sound. An international community of users centered around the effective usage of a software product and its inherent processes that are absolutely essential for the well-being of companies and governments around the world is a noble undertaking.


    Is INUGE in its current form sustainable or arguably healthy? I would also say "no".... and its current state gives evidence of the consequences of years of dependence on CA as opposed to operating independently.


    I think Phon was quite eloquent in her response to Stuart's post in articulating the dismay many of us feel at the current state of affairs. From the erosion of influence to the sunset of the website, I think the siren's song of CA's sponsorship has inadvertently steered us onto the shoals of irrelevance.


    Since coming back into an active Endevor administrative role and engagement with the user community, I have been dismayed at the "state of the nation". Some time ago, I posted a note in Linkedin (in the "Endevor Professionals" group) regarding this observation and asked whether it was time for a reboot. The crickets that responded were deafening... Stuart was (and is) accurate in his response to the post in that the support for INUGE appears to be disappearing and becoming non-existent.


    But I don't think it needs to die.


    I think it needs to be revitalized around a more aggressive concept that goes beyond CA's sponsorship with a more defined role, goals, and objective. Perhaps its time for a new constitution.... maybe its time it took on the role of certifying Endevor professionals or certifying what are REALLY best practices based on what REAL administrators and users encounter instead of what the last service contractor or previous Endevor administrator left on-site to be supported.


    To steal a phrase from one of the American candidates... We need to make INUGE great again!


    And the potential is there... arguably more so than it ever has been with the electronic tethers we all have access to these days. Why not have a quarterly meeting with objectives for the organization to achieve? Why not start voting on things WE bring up instead of items fed to us from CA? Why not form a voting block for (and sometimes against) "ideas" that are weirdly upvoted because an eclectic few want something in Endevor and the rest of us "just don't care". Why not be the "go-to" organization for the "correct" way to leverage Endevor instead of having newcomers or our replacements as we retire wallow in the dark and make Endevor behave weirdly because they didn't know better?


    This doesn't HAVE to be the end... but it can be a call to a new beginning.

  • 3.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-29-2016 03:56 PM

    here is the link to Stuart's post - -Is I-NUGE finished as a concept?



  • 4.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-31-2016 12:07 PM

    One thing of many that INUGE had in place was a forum for local Endevor user community officers to share information about Endevor.  We're working on a new community group that will be used by local Endevor user community officers for sharing information about running a local Endevor user community along with other topics related to Endevor.  I'm thinking members of this community will get together via phone from time to time throughout the year and in-person (for members that make it to CA-WORLD).


    Local Endevor User Community Officers                 

  • 5.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-31-2016 12:17 PM

    Perfect, thank you Phil for keeping the leadship alive and helping with the mentoring.
    I hope everyone has a great day,


  • 6.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 03-31-2016 01:14 PM

    These have been sitting at the bottom of my desk drawer for sometime, but since ya'll talking about I-nuge revival thought it a great place to share. I'm in no way recommending revival of the buttons. Sometimes change is good

    Endevor buttons.jpg

  • 7.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 04-01-2016 08:54 AM

  • 8.  Re: is i-nuge finished as a concept?

    Posted 04-01-2016 09:05 AM

    I love that NUGE guy!